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Date: | Thu, 24 Aug 2000 11:46:59 PDT |
From: | "Steven Levine" <steve53@earthlink.net > |
Reply-To: | scoug-help@scoug.com |
To: | scoug-help@scoug.com |
Subject: | SCOUG-Help: TRAP0003 |
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In <200008240525.WAA08712@snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net>, on 08/23/00
Gary,
>OK. I'll do most of the ones you suggest. My biggest concern was to
The impact would only occur after the trap 3 went away. You would be
Everything I suggested REM-ing was part of an optional system component.
>If you mean WIN-OS2, yes, I do. There are a couple of programs I run
No I meant, Win9x or WinNT which you do have.
>As far as changes are concerned, I think it is time to define change. I
I expect the source of the problem to be a hardware configuration change.
>But, what is its purpose in life, and what ar the dependencies?
It's the Resource Manager. RM aware device drivers communicate with it to
>partition to install it. If I'm going to be hand-copying stuff, why not
OK.
>on the ThinkPad, and the backup resides on one of the partitions on my
This is how I backup all my laptops.
>the answer is that a restore procedure is not in place. I recognize this
I did a Mr. KIA write up on this in March, 1999.
Back you "what changed". The resource manager is a "hardware" thing.
With a laptop, you don't neccessarily have to physically change hardware
Do you recall doing anything like this recently. Even if you didn't, it
I know this is frustrating, but it's not a problem I have seen before.
I'm not even saying you changed anything yourself. Sometimes, stuff
Since the REM exercise fixed nothing, you might as well restore the
More later.
Steven
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at 10:25 PM, "Gary Granat"
>have enough stuff loaded to achieve a running system. I'm hazy on the
>issue of the "RUN" statements and what impact these might have on a
>system that can't even display the boot logo before trapping.
attempting to start daemons that depend on drivers and file systems that
are not installed.
>occasionally that are Win3.1 vintage.
>completely agree that SOMETHING has changed, but it hasn't been something
>"new" installed or anything like that. What sort of change are you
>trying to find? If you want to get specific, every system changes, as a
However, when troubleshooting problems like this that have no "apparent"
cause, I try to stay open of other possibilities and prune the suspects by
testing.
both define the available resources (i.e. adapters and devices) and to
locate resource they may need. You see the some of the results of this in
System -> System Setup -> Hardware Manager.
>concentrate on what is installed?
>base system (a DFI from Indelible Blue). If I had some way to establish
>as a deficiency, but haven't solved the logistics, to date.
It's failing because your hardware appears different in a way it can't
handle. Something changed where you expected no change. I don't know why
an Alt-F1 reboot with full hardware detection does not fix it, but it
doesn't.
for this to happen. The hardware is highly configurable through the BIOS
and through the Thinkpad setup utilities. Perhaps you went into Thinkpad
Configuration and inadvertently enabled a device or changed an IRQ.
Perhaps you went into the NT Device Manager and changed something there
that filtered down into the BIOS settings.
might be a good idea to bring up the Thinkpad configuration utility under
NT or from a floppy boot and review all the settings.
There have been a couple of trap 3 reports lately, but they are all
specific to FP14 and that's not you.
happens. We'll just have to keep at it until it's fixed.
orginal.
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