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Date:	Thu, 27 Feb 2003 17:45:01 PST8
From:	"Lynn H. Maxson" <lmaxson@pacbell.net >
Reply-To:	scoug-general@scoug.com
To:	< "scoug-general@scoug.com" > scoug-general@scoug.com >
Subject:	SCOUG-General: Connectix announcement

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Steven,

At least you quoted the right source: Sander van Leeuwen
. In fact apparently you quoted the "only"
source. My information is at best x-hand based on
discussions appearing on the few mailing lists to which I
subscribe.

I think that having parts of WINE in ODIN and parts of ODIN in
JAVA 1.4, Acrobat Reader, and VPC. That none of these
provide any ability to run the M$ office suite on OS/2 says just
how long we have come and how far we have to go.

One of the reasons for emphasizing the dynamics of change
and our inability in general to have our software solution set
keep pace with the real world problem set came from a desire
to keep delusion from setting in after an extended period of
trying. The issue is productivity. The problem is our tool set.
That sets the limits on our productivity.

We differ on a number of technical points. I call some things
embedded in language rules "compiler restrictions". I do this
because we could eliminate them without impacting one single
line of existing source code. Admittedly I have little respect
for one-pass compilers, which only their authors could love
and their users must tolerate. I have even less respect in
saying that based on use the same source code in one
instance is an internal procedure and in another external. In
truth we have never had a need for internal procedures. We
have never had the need to limit a compile to producing a
single object module. Those are compiler restrictions, not
language.

I look forward to our narrowing of differences as well as the
discussions leading to it. I just have great faith in the ability
of the SCOUG membership, including Michal whom we don't
hear from often enough, to deal with these issues and to
engage itself in their resolution.

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