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Date:	Sat, 7 Dec 2002 14:06:16 PST7
From:	Harry Chris Motin <hmotin@attglobal.net >
Reply-To:	scoug-help@scoug.com
To:	scoug-help@scoug.com
Subject:	SCOUG-Help: Re: Printing issues

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J.R.,

I received your E-mail, previously and also this time. I did not
comment, however, because I don't have nearly the same problems that you
do with Netscape 4.61. I have some, however. Here are mine:

1. It often freezes somewhere in the middle of going to a website.
Sometimes, I can use CAD Commander to shut it down. Sometimes I have to
do a complete reboot.

2. Netscape hogs most of the CPU. However, I can print from it very
well. It prints pretty fast and frees up the printer spooler fast. I can
also open a second version of Netscape with little problem

3. The Netscape hogging problem is most apparent when I close off
Netscape. While it's closing down, I cannot click on anything else. If I
do, no response.

It might be useful to note that I access Netscape (for Internet
browsing) via a REXX script. The script first calls my Internet dialer
through the IBM dialer program. Then it loads the TimeKeeper/2 program
so that I can update my system clock via time servers on the Internet.
Finally, it calls Netscape. The script then cycles every 5 seconds and
checks on the status of Netscape. If Netscape is still open, it cycles
through another 5 seconds. If I have closed Netscape, the script closes
down the dialer and TimeKeeper/2

I'm telling you all of this, because perhaps this arrangement of using
Netscape avoids/sidesteps some of the problems you've been experiencing.
It's just a thought.

HCM

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"J. R. Fox" wrote:
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> [Note: I've been watching my Digest edition of the list, and this
> reply I sent never appeared, which makes me think it was never
> received for some reason. Therefore, I am re-sending it.]
>
> Sandy wrote:
>
> > I have been using Mozilla 1.2 beta for many weeks now without any
> > difficulty.
> >
> > Now, all of a sudden I can't print. When I click on the Print icon,
> > everything freezes. I can only recover by hitting control-escape a few
> > times and then closing Mozilla.
> > . . .
> > I don't have this problem with Netscape.
>
> I've been using Mozilla 1.1.a, and have not seen this problem myself.
> However, I
> have seen a couple other printing-from-browser problems.
>
> 1) In Netscape 4.61, for some time I have found that when I do a print
> job from NS
> -- the current web page or some document -- I get the waiting clock
> icon until the
> job has fully printed. All keyboard or mouse response becomes to no
> avail: can't
> look at an alternate page, switch to another app., etc. while printing
> is in
> progress. Which printer has the print job does not seem to matter. I
> don't recall
> for sure, but think this was very likely not always the case. If that
> is true,
> there must be some tuning / settings issue involved. Suggestions
> welcome.
>
> Oh, one other thing: if there are two or more Netscape windows loaded,
> I can't even
> bring up the window from which printing is requested. This also was
> probably not
> always the case. Re this situation, I'm mostly running W4 @FP-9, with
> the next to
> last drop of NS 4.61.
>
> 2) Just like I cannot seem to arrange a cache behavior for Mozilla
> duplicating the
> one in NS 4.61 (*discrete* saving of sound or graphics files), I also
> really don't
> like the divergent printing behavior of Mozilla. This is particularly
> true in
> regard to Frames, which print in a lousy and haphazard fashion. You
> get a nonstop
> string of *page elements* rather than pages. Most graphics print out
> as solid
> black shapes. Folks, this really bites, and sends me right back to
> 4.61 for print
> jobs ! Also, I find the discrete saving of many page elements in
> various places --
> out of which a re-displayed file is apparently re-assembled on the
> fly, to be
> exceedingly lame !!
>
> Is there no way to force a "Do Like 4.61" behavior upon Mozilla, for
> these things ?
>
> You're probably going to send me to the Mozilla List(s), or somesuch .
> . . . If
> necessary, I'll take it up there.
>
> Jordan
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