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Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2002 01:29:47 PST7
From: jack.huffman@worldnet.att.net
Reply-To: scoug-help@scoug.com
To: scoug-help@scoug.com
Subject: SCOUG-Help: Re: electronic printer switches

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In , on 07/04/2002
at 11:47 PM, "Steven Levine" said:

>In
><20020704210636.ELLQ20423.mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net@mailhost.worldnet.att.net>,
>on 07/04/02
> at 01:06 PM, jack.huffman@worldnet.att.net said:

>>Be able to print to a Lexmark 5700 and another printer. The second
>>printer will be a Lexmark E210 or a Laserjet 4. I know the latter is an
>>old bugger but there are drivers for it in Warp 4 and the two DOS
>>programs I have used for years, WordPerfect 6.0 and Quattro Pro 3.

>This was just discussed here last week it seems. You've got lots of
>choices:

> - mechanical switch
> - electronic switch
> - install a 2nd printer port
> - install a print server

>Each one has good points and bad points. Which one would you prefer?

>>I would like to be able to add a scanner to the network at some future
>>date if that does not increase the cost of the two printer network too
>>much.

>You will not be able to network the scanner under OS/2, unless someone
>writes a driver. A SCSI scanner and a cheap host adapter is the way to
>go for OS/2.

>Steven

Steven,

Let me get back to basics.

I am looking for a second printer because I can't make my Lexmark 5700
print envelopes from WordPerfect for DOS 6.0 and it is awfully slow to
print from Windows apps in Win-OS2. The 5700 prints everything from Word
Perfect except envelopes and everything my DOS version of Quattro Pro
outputs because it emulates the HP500 monochrome and color printers and
both programs have drivers for both printers. My envelope printing
problem exists because, to the best of my knowledge, the HP500 fed
envelopes long dimension as WP assumes it will be done and the 5700 feeds
then end first.

I had the Windows apps problem licked because my second printer, an 8 or
10 year old dot matrix Panasonic KXP 1124 which gave out, printed Windows
apps speedily. There were also drivers for it, or the Epson LP2500 which
it emulated, in both DOS programs and no envelope printing problems
because the printer took envelopes long dimension. The 5700 and the
KXP1124 were on a mechanical switch box which apparently handled bidi
communications--the level of ink in the 5700 cartridges went down.

Both DOS programs have drivers for various Laserjet II and III models and
the Laserjets 4, 4L, and 4Si; WordPerfect has drivers for many other 4
models and more II's and III's than Quattro Pro; there are even postscript
drivers in WP.

When Tony Butka praised the new Lexmark E210 so highly and I could get one
for 1/3 off, I bought it figuring that the IBM Generic Postscript driver
or the new Laserjet Driver would print output from some driver in each DOS
program. But I have not been able to print envelopes fed end first into
the 5700 or the E210 with the Generic Postscript driver.

Last Tuesday I said to myself, "Hey, stupid, see if you can buy a suitable
Laserjet locally" and bought a "Carolina Trader", 75 pages of ads
(including hundreds for computers, printers, etc.) printed until the item
sells. There were two Laserjet 4's in it, including the one described in
my post, "Should I buy this LJ4 printer?".

On Wednesday, I said to myself, "Dummy, why don't you see if there is an
OS/2 word processor that will print envelopes?" The only one I found was
Sundial's Clear something or other. I downloaded the demo and have made
it landscape print an envelope on a sheet of paper. Ultimately I will
print envelopes.

But this software uses only the Type 1 PM fonts from OS/2. I have only
the four installed initially. I would have to buy more to match some of
those available via WordPerfect. My total cost would be more than the
cost of some suitable LJ 4 here or on EBay and using two word processors
would be a pain.

Google found the latest, or the German OS2.org site says they are the
latest, OS/2 laserjet and postscript drivers a few hours ago and I
downloaded them. I am going to install them and see if I can make an
envelope created in WordPerfect print when loaded end first on the 5700
and the E210 (both of which are Win printers). I tried that last week,
using the installation version of the Generic Postscript driver, on the
5700 without success. I am going to use Peter Skye's "ambulatory
mechanical switch". That way the functioning or not functioning of a
mechanical or electronic switch is not confounded with problem of printing
when I try the Laserjet drivers in WP or QP.

Assuming it is necessary to use two printers, I am pretty sure I don't
want to network them. If I understand "Warp Unleashed" correctly, a
network requires a local and a network printer object for each printer and
their drivers must be matched. I have enough trouble configuring two
local printers and think four would be a pain.

I will try my mechanical switch box next. If that creates problems, I
would like to use two physical parallel ports. Faxworks throws a printer
on LPT3 and if I understand "Warp Unleashed", a scanner does not use one
of the usual parallel ports.

It took me a long time to get around to answering your question but I have
told you the whole story so you can shoot holes in my thinking.

Gee, I see it is 5 a.m. and I started out yesterday early for me so I
could mow my postage stamp back long before the temperature got to 95 and
the heat index to well over 100. Maybe I'll have breakfast before I go to
bed.

Jack

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