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Date:	Mon, 15 Jul 2002 19:11:15 PST7
From:	"Steven Levine" <steve53@earthlink.net >
Reply-To:	scoug-help@scoug.com
To:	scoug-help@scoug.com
Subject:	SCOUG-Help: Re: some strange things going on

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In <3D3330AD.8C17F8D1@pacbell.net>, on 07/15/02
at 11:45 AM, "J. R. Fox" said:

>> Well, 4.61 is hardly complaint with today's standards. Tables are slow to
>> render in 4.61,

Typo alert: complaint -> compliant.

>Does that mean we need to abandon using it ? I seem to recall there
>being some club members who champion the continued use of 2.02 . . . at
>least for some specific purposes.

It's a matter of choice. If you choose to continue to use it, don't
expect it to work as well as a browser written to current standard.

>Yes. Latest version. Is there some way to turn it off briefly, then
>back on again, if this is a problem ?

The easy way is to move the flash dll out of the plugins directory and
restart the browser.

>been loading the offending Ebay pages since then either. I guess a lot
>of them use tables ? I did visit one site since, recommended on another

Close to 100% of sites use tables. This is because until CSS came along
it was the only way to do page layout in a browser.

>list, that yielded similarly bad results with 4.61. The "Cool Quotes
>Collection" at:

>http://www.sleepwalker.net/quotes/

>I'm not sure if that's their new URL, or the old one with redirection.

It's the old URL.

>Interesting. I'm not sure that file wasn't there before -- there was no
>reason for me to be aware of it. But I find it curious that the file had
>the same date as the worst of the crashes, the one that led me to at
>first think some files might have gotten wiped out. (I *definitely* did

Well, tcpcoex only shuffles executables, AFAIK. Since, as I mentioned, it
is invoked by TCPSTART, Since you were have problems, it's not impossible
the something occured to convince it that it needed to do some work. It's
hard to know what triggered what.

>The WarpCenter object just won't go or shadow there. It vanishes as soon
>as I drag it to the Startup folder.

That's odd. It may be that it has the NOSHADOW setting, which means you
need to create a another WarpCenter object and copy it to the folder (i.e.
Ctrl-Drag).

Steven

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