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Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 17:28:01 PST7
From: "Steven Levine" <steve53@earthlink.net >
Reply-To: scoug-help@scoug.com
To: scoug-help@scoug.com
Subject: SCOUG-Help: System Problems Continue

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In <3D094738.B6249CFA@pacbell.net>, on 06/13/02
at 04:31 PM, "J. R. Fox" said:

>At the moment, some cold boots are bringing up an Award screen warning me
>that my CPU speed may be set improperly (it **isn't**), which it says can
>have bad consequences. This really ain't much fun. If I can't sort this
>out on my own, once I get the chance, I may have to come down to the Help
>Desk.

That's a sign of CMOS corruption. Could be a bad backup battery.

>Maybe I'm not looking at it right -- in terms of what I can see inside
>the opened case -- but I don't see these washers . . . nor do I see them
>on the prior P2B-F we removed, which worked fine for 5 years. I did find
>a couple of plastic (mounting ?) screws on the latter.

There's usually several plastic standoffs around the edges. Then there
are one or two metal screws sort of in the center that hold the MB to the
mounting plate. These screws screw into brass(?) standoffs that are
screwed into the mounting plate. There should be a fiber washer between
to standoff and the MB.

>One thing I find a bit curious: the P-II / 450 was affixed so firmly to
>the P2B-F that it just wasn't going anywhere. You'd need to pry it off
>with a crowbar. Yet, there does not appear to be any obvious way to
>achieve this with the P-III / P3B-F combo. Having the box in the car on a
>relatively short trip, over reasonably smooth roads, is enough to cause
>the CPU to pop out every time. Makes me think the earlier builder had
>some trick for this (please don't say Super Glue !), in which case it
>would just be one of many such tricks.

I'm not really familiar with the P2B layout. On the P3B-F there are clips
that are supposed to lock down the CPU carrier.

>Yeah, but this was always a multi-OS box, and I'm thinking PnP OFF is
>gonna cause W2K to wig out, somewhere along the line.

I'll have to defer to the opinions of the WinXX crew here.

>you're thinking maybe it's more like the motherboard ? I'm sure I've
>only used a fraction of the H/W that you have, but, outside of a FDD and
>some very early hard drives, I just haven't seen much in the way of H/W
>failure.

I can only work the probabilities. I don't see all that much broken
hardware myself.

>I'll need someone to pinpoint its location for me. I went through the
>whole MB manual looking for it, and could not find any mention of it.

It's somewhat hidden on page 51 of the manual. See CLRTC.

Steven

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