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Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2002 09:43:06 PST7
From: "Larry Tawa" <larry.tawa@worldnet.att.net >
Reply-To: scoug-help@scoug.com
To: scoug-help@scoug.com
Subject: SCOUG-Help: Domain registration

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Peter,

Resending this with *that* word modified so that JunkSpy does not filter
out.

Larry

In <9813.03.23.13.30.06.2002@dslextreme.com>, on 06/30/2002
at 12:51 AM, Peter Skye said:

Peter,

First thanks for the very informative reply.

>Larry Tawa wrote:
>>
>> what is the "actual" cost per year
>> for registering a single domain name?

>$8.95/year is the best price I've found for *one* year. Verisign is
>something like $35/year for the same service. :)

>There are dozens of registrars, and they're free to charge whatever they
>want.

If I buy the first year of registration from Verisign for $35, at a later
time can I purchase additional years from your $8.95/yr vender or am I
committed to buy additional registration years from Verisign? A related
question: who owns the "pink slip" for the domain that I registered?

>> If I run the domain name from my home system are their
>> any other additional costs that I need to to know about?

>You need DNS service so anybody in the world can look you up and find out
>what your IP address is. Then you need a fixed IP address (there are
>ways to use a changing IP address if you don't want to pay for a fixed IP
>address). Then you need your equipment on 24x7.

>Doesn't worldnet.att.net give you a "free" web space, typically 10MB or
>so? You can use _that_ space for your web site and use your domain name
>to refer to it. Then you don't need to have your home equipment on all
>the time and you don't need a fixed IP address.

Yes worldnet does have "free"web space; I had a dsl line but I
miscalculated when I moved from Los Angeles to Orange County; I am
literally on the wrong side of the street and just out of reach of
dslextreme.com. So for now, I still have worldnet & dslextreme dialup
access.

>> This would be my first serious attempt
>> at creating my own mail server.

>I use _two_ mail servers, an "incoming" mail server and an "outgoing"
>mail server. The "incoming" mail server is currently at Verizon.net and
>I use my DNS service provider (ZoneEdit) to translate my "peterskye.com"
>and other domain names to that address -- the person who sends the
>message to pskye@peterskye.com (or any other name@peterskye.com) never
>knows that the message is actually routed to my verizon.net account. The
>"outgoing" mail server is sendmail running on my own machine, and I use
>it to bypass the verizon.net mail server when I send messages because
>Verizon (and Earthlink too, although I think they just changed their
>policy this month) don't allow you to send messages through their email
>server unless you use *their* domain name rather than your own domain
>name.

>Summary:
>-- 1. For email, first register the domain name(s) that you want, then go
>to ZoneEdit and register on their DNS (ZoneEdit is free for small users)
>to have all email sent to @larrytawa.com forwarded to
>larry.tawa@worldnet.att.net, and people can now email you at your new
>domain name. For outgoing mail using "From: larry.tawa@larrytawa.com" or
>similar you may have to run sendmail on your machine (although it only
>needs to be running when you're actually sending messages; I run it
>constantly so I don't have to remember to start and stop it) -- after you
>register your domain try sending yourself a message "From:
>larry.tawa@larrytawa.com" "To: larry.tawa@worldnet.att.net" and see if
>the WorldNet email server will let your message through. I'm running the
>original Warp sendmail (version 2.02) but the latest OS/2 version is
>8.12.3 or something like that.
>-- 2. For web pages, you're probably better off using the free space that
>WorldNet probably gives you and ********ing http requests made to your
>domain name to that free space. Then you don't have to bother running
>your own server. If you want to run your own server anyway, Apache is
>good and you'll need DNS service so larrytawa.com points to your IP
>address.

Very useful stuff. Thanks.

>- Peter

Regards.

Larry
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