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Date:	Wed, 27 Aug 2003 21:19:31 PDT7
From:	Michael Rakijas <mrakijas@oco.net >
Reply-To:	scoug-help@scoug.com
To:	scoug-help <scoug-help@scoug.com >
Subject:	SCOUG-Help: Java 1.1.8 kludging (was: Anyone instant message?)

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** Reply to message from Peter Skye on Tue, 26 Aug 2003
21:47:43 PDT7

> Michael Rakijas wrote:
> >
> > > I *think* you can use Java 1.1.8 plus some of the newer
> > > Java "libraries" (whatever the J guys call them) from
> > > the Sun website. . . .
> > > (thank you Timothy Sipples for telling me how).
> >
> > This is interesting in all circumstances irrespective of IM.
> > Do you have a URL reference?
>
> No. Tim wrote an article somewhere (maybe OS/2 e-Zine or VOICE) which
> iirc was about Limewire, so you can check those archives.

Saw a screen shot of Limewire in an OS/2 e-Zine article about Java but not much
of a description on what's involved in getting it to work. Not much on VOICE,
as far as I can tell.

> But it wasn't
> clear from the article how to "upgrade" Java 1.1.8 so that Limewire
> would run, and I got the actual instructions from Tim in a private
> email.

Rats. Sounds shareable (take your time getting Tim's approval). Or finish
your article. :-)

> I think I had to download a Java file from the Sun website (remember
> that Java runs on a virtual engine so these Java "libraries" should run
> on any operating system that has a Java virtual engine running), unzip
> the file, and move some of the files to my Java path.

That's the general process I would have expected. Eventually, I expect to
upgrade other machines in the house but if there's a simple way to extend the
Java life of the machine, I'd be interested.

> Terry Warren also knows how to do this. He gave a SCOUG presentation a
> little over a year ago which included this information. (I interviewed
> him for an article about this last summer but suddenly got involved in
> my in-laws' legal problems and the article was never finished.)

Hmm. Time to pick it up again, huh? ;-)

> Innotek in Europe offers (for free I think) a software package that does
> this upgrade. Go to
>
> http://www.innotek.de/products/javaos2/

This appears to be the base installation of 1.4.2 using (TTBOMK) the Win
implementation of 1.4.2 Java with some Odin-derived helpers to allow it to run
on OS/2. Unless you're saying the libraries included in the Innotek portion of
the download includes the files you need to shuffle and deal out ... but how to
figure out which where?

> for their "OS/2 Kit for Java" which installs Sun Java on OS/2. Terry
> told me that both Sun and IBM use the same source code for these Java
> libraries but IBM spends a little more time debugging them.
>
> - Peter

-Rocky

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