SCOUG-HELP Mailing List Archives
Return to [ 00 | 
June | 
2003 ]
<< Previous Message << 
 >> Next Message >>
 
 
 
| Date: |      Sun, 01 Jun 2003 11:48:45 +0100  |  
| From: |      "Info 4 SYNass"   <Info@SYNass.NET >   |  
| Reply-To: |    |  
| To: |    |  
| Subject: |  Re: SCOUG-Help: Re: Wayne's IDE... IMPORTANT: Sorry my TYPO ;-(  |  
 
=====================================================  
If you are responding to someone asking for help who  
may not be a member of this list, be sure to use the  
REPLY TO ALL feature of your email program.  
=====================================================  
 
Sorry, somehow I mistyped the CYL's:  
 
It shall be CYL 4865 instead of  CAL 4868 !!!  
 
Kind regards,  
svobi  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
	=  
 
Info@SYNass.NET  
 
01.06.2003 10:53:38  
 
Please respond to scoug-help@scoug.com  
To:	scoug-help@scoug.com, waynec@linkline.com  
cc:	 =  
 
Subject:	SCOUG-Help: Re: Wayne's IDE... IMPORTANT  
 
 
 
	=  
 
 
??????????????????  
If you are responding to someone asking for help who  
may not be a member of this list, be sure to use the  
REPLY TO ALL feature of your email program.  
??????????????????  
 
Hi Wayne  
your circle seems starting closing ;-)  
 
My environment displays following:  
 
BIOS - Standard CMOS Features:  
-> IDE Primary Slave: WSC400EB-00CPF0  
AUTO / LBA  
40018 MB  
CAL 4868  
HEAD 255  
PRECOMP 0  
LZ 19157  
SECTOR 63  
 
BIOS - Integrated Periphery:  
Slave Drive PIO Mode =3D AUTO  
 
 
Since your new 40GB isn't used yet ...  
=2E.. you may set accordingly and then re-FDISK and re-FORMAT your disk =  
 
in that way you want have it !? =  
 
 
What's Steven's opinon / Suggestion here ?  
 
Wishing you good luck ;-)  
 
Kind regards, svobi  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
waynec@linkline.com on 01.06.2003 06:56:28  
Please respond to scoug-help@scoug.com  
To:	scoug-help@scoug.com  
cc:	 =  
 
Subject:	SCOUG-Help: Re: Wayne's ide... IMPORTANT  
 
PS.... important info =  
 
 
I ran PQmagic ver 5's ptedit program to look at the 40gb ide drive  
again =  
 
after my inability to boot the installation diskettes. Then I looked at  
the =  
 
bios. Then I looked at the WDC drive specs on their website (since the  
info =  
 
that came in the box doesn't give these specs). I was astounded to find  
that =  
 
NONE of them seem to match! =  
 
 
So, what did I do that caused the mismatches? =  
 
 
 
The AMD's Phoenix - AwardBIOS setup utility shows the IDE Primary  
Master =  
 
drive as a WDC WD400BB-00DKA0. That gave me confidence (apparently  
false =  
 
confidence) originally that the drive was properly recognized. I did  
not get =  
 
drive specs in the drive box. Nor did I get a a bios manual with the =  
 
barebones, and didn't find one at the WDC website, so I have to guess  
at the =  
 
meaning of some of the available settings. =  
 
 
The drive is set up as primary master, with IDE HDD Auto-Detection.  
 
 "Primary Master" can be set as "None", "Auto", or "Manual", and is set  
as =  
 
"Auto", which was WDC's recommendation. =  
 
 
 "Access Mode" can be set to any of 4 values: "CHS", "LBA", "Large", or =  
 
"Auto", and is set as "Auto"...  
 WDC didn't mention this setting.  
 I now see, in going over the WDC install instructions, that they  
recommend =  
 
"LBA", although that doesn't seem to change anything. =  
 
 
 An Auto-detection (whether Access Mode is "auto" or "CHS" or "LBA"  
shows:  
    Capacity      40022 mb  
    Cylinder      19158  
    Head             16  
    Precomp           0  
    Landg Zone    19157  
    Sector          255 =  
 
 
if I change "Acess Mode" value to "Large", and re-Auto-detect the  
drive, =  
 
"Cylinder" changes to 1277 (WOW!!!), otherwise the values are the same  
for =  
 
all settings of Access Mode after doing an auto-detect. =  
 
 
The PQmagic ver 5 ptedit program inexplicably showed the drive  
differently =  
 
on two tries, one before I started looking at the drive in the bios and  
with =  
 
the ptedit program, and then after I looked in the bios, even though  
the =  
 
bios showed everything the same both times. =  
 
 
I lost the PQmagic ptedit values after the first time I booted PQmagic,  
so I =  
 
booted PQmagic again. =  
 
 
This time PQmagic showed the drive as having an error: "the length of  
the =  
 
partition in the partition table is incorrect, The CHS length is  
16435440, =  
 
the LBA length is 4104513, and the File System length is 4104513.  
Partition =  
 
Magic has determined that the length can be changed to the correct  
value of =  
 
4112577". If I don't let it change the value (which I didn't on the  
second =  
 
bootup of PQmagic), it shows me a partition error 110 on the display of  
the =  
 
drive. I must have changed SOMETHING without knowing it.... come to  
think =  
 
about it, I may have pushed the "Boot record" button on my first use of =  
 
ptedit, wondering what that showed, but it didn't show me anything so I =  
 
thought nothing happened. Wrong! =  
 
 
So, I let it "correct" things on the third bootup. =  
 
 
Earlier it was showing me the drive as "Disk 1 - 5910 mb", with the  
first =  
 
partition as 2008 mb. After letting it correct the drive the third  
bootup, =  
 
it showed it as "Disk 1 - 38162 MB  4865 cyl, 255 heads, 63 sectors per =  
 
track" with the same 2008 mb first partition. Ptedit now shows the  
partition =  
 
as: =  
 
 
 Type           07  ...defined as "Installable File Sytem (NTFS, HPFS)"  
 Boot           00  
 Cyl             0  
 Head            1  
 Sector          1  
 Ending Cyl    255  
 Head          254  
 Sector         63  
 Sectors before 63  
 Sectors  4112577 =  
 
 
Those numbers looked good, but they don't seem to match the bios.  
Sorry, I =  
 
lost the numbers I got the first time I ran ptedit after I had tried to  
use =  
 
the Install diskettes ($#%^@ ISP email bounced me off after I wrote 'em =  
 
down!!!), the partition type was the same, but I don't know for certain =  
 
whether the other numbers were the same. =  
 
 
So, since there were no specs in the box the WDC drive came in, and I  
wasn't =  
 
sure the numbers above matched, I went to the WDC website to find their =  
 
specs to determine which was correct... the numbers I found there  
didn't =  
 
appear to match either set.... =  
 
 
 Cylinders  	 16383  
 Heads 	    16  
 Sectors/Track     63  
 Landing Zone   16383  
 WPC 	         16383  
 =  
 
 
So, I am thinking, since I don't have any data on the 40gb ide drive,  
that I =  
 
should alter the bios "IDE Primary Master" to "Manual" instead of  
"Auto", =  
 
and "Access Mode" to "CHS" and fill in the WDC website values (except I =  
 
don't know what the bios parameter "Precomp" means). =  
 
 
Steven, what do you think? (enough detail this time?) =  
 
 
Svobi, what does your bios show for your WDC 40gb drive? =  
 
 
Harry? =  
 
 
Ray? =  
 
 
Anybody else have a WDC 40gb drive they can check? =  
 
 
Thanks again for your time and advice,  
Wayne =  
 
 
(thought I was taking today off, didn't work out that way)  
 
 
 
 
************************************************  
>>>  Say  NO  to  H T M L  in Mail and News  <<<  
>>>   AGAINST  TERROR   +++   AGAINST  WAR   <<<  
************************************************  
??????????????????  
 
To unsubscribe from this list, send an email message  
to "steward@scoug.com". In the body of the message,  
put the command "unsubscribe scoug-help".  
 
For problems, contact the list owner at  
"rollin@scoug.com".  
 
??????????????????  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
************************************************  
>>>  Say  NO  to  H T M L  in Mail and News  <<<  
>>>   AGAINST  TERROR   +++   AGAINST  WAR   <<<  
************************************************=  
 
=====================================================  
 
To unsubscribe from this list, send an email message  
to "steward@scoug.com". In the body of the message,  
put the command "unsubscribe scoug-help".  
 
For problems, contact the list owner at  
"rollin@scoug.com".  
 
=====================================================  
 
  
<< Previous Message << 
 >> Next Message >>
Return to [ 00 | 
June | 
2003 ] 
  
  
The Southern California OS/2 User Group
 P.O. Box 26904
 Santa Ana, CA  92799-6904, USA
Copyright 2001 the Southern California OS/2 User Group.  ALL RIGHTS 
RESERVED. 
 
SCOUG, Warp Expo West, and Warpfest are trademarks of the Southern California OS/2 User Group.
OS/2, Workplace Shell, and IBM are registered trademarks of International 
Business Machines Corporation.
All other trademarks remain the property of their respective owners.
 
 |