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| Date: |      Mon, 02 Jun 2003 16:18:20 +0100  |  
| From: |      "Info 4 SYNass"   <Info@SYNass.NET >   |  
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| Subject: |  Re: SCOUG-Help: HDD choice & settings with OS/2 !?  |  
 
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Hi Harry =  
 
Thanks for your interesting answer !  
 
My problems were about exactly the same as Wayne faced just now =  
 
except that my system was IDE driven only and only the CD-ROM and =  
 
a GigaMO are SCSI !  
 
Beside of this little difference I found it very, very curious that the  
system =  
 
running already with a 7.5GB, a 20GB and also a 75GB HDD was not =  
 
able to get running properly with replacing the WDC200AB with a  
WDC400EB !!  
 
I was struggling and tickering with my only one productive system and  
toooooo =  
 
many time I had to rollback to my old 20GB drive when I realized the  
40GB not =  
 
working properly !!!  
 
I did check and contact the manufacturers website information and  
instruction =  
 
and also did contact the WDC support ;-) I also contacted 2 of my  
experts with =  
 
no positive results ;-(  
 
WDC support took more than 10 days to reply to my incident and =  
 
their response were nonsense ;-(( I did not reveal that I am using OS/2  
in my =  
 
first request ;-|  
 
I just tried the LBA / CHS settings with my experimental system:  
You are correct: the system doesn't boot anymore !  
 
Now I have set all HDD's back to "AUTO" and they were displayed as =  
 
"LBA" during the system boot !!  
 
In the meantime I do not need to write down anymore the BIOS settings  
=2E..  
=2E.. with all these experiments I can do this by heart ;-) but this does  
not =  
 
mean that I know exactly all and each of these settings ;-))  
 
Once again thanks a lot for your helpful comments: I feel, like you  
also =  
 
wrote (only half-way) better now ;-)))  
 
Regards, svobi  
 
 
PS: =  
 
One more question regarding the caches:  
How does a 2MB or a 8MB HDD cache affect OS/2 ???  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
hmotin@sbcglobal.net on 02.06.2003 15:10:50  
Please respond to hmotin@sbcglobal.net  
To:	Info@SYNass.NET, scoug-help@scoug.com, steve53@earthlink.net  
cc:	 =  
 
Subject:	Re: SCOUG-Help:   HDD choice & settings with OS/2 !?  
 
Svobi,  
 
I too had many problems setting up IDE hard drives. I had to go to the  
manufacturer =  
 
website and CAREFULLY read all the literature and recommendations  
before I felt =  
 
HALF-WAY comfortable (only half-way).  
 
In the end I don't think it matters about setting your hard drive to  
LBA, or CHS, or Large, =  
 
etc. In my mind only 2 things matter:  
 
	1.	Can you see and use all of your hard drive, using a particular  
setting?  
 
	2.	Don't violate any NO-NO's from the manufacturer  
 
I've used both CHS and LBA. I set my last 2 IDE drives to auto detect  
in the BIOS. The =  
 
BIOS auto detected and set them to LBA. On one of my motherboards I had  
to first =  
 
temporarily pull out the SCSI card before the BIOS would auto detect my  
IDE drive (a =  
 
trick I learned from the PC builder).  
 
I would not change the BIOS settings from LBA to CHS. I was told that  
you cannot do it =  
 
successfully. At a minimum you will not be able to boot your system. At  
a maximum you =  
 
may get data corruption and lost  
 
The MOST IMPORTANT think that I think you should do is write down or  
copy/print =  
 
your BIOS settings. I do this everytime I install new hardware and its  
really saved me. =  
 
I've been able to go back to a previous configuration without a problem  
(on several =  
 
occasions the new hardware just did not work out to my satisfaction).  
Fortunately for me =  
 
I can print my BIOS settings, using Print Screen. You may (or, may not)  
be able to use =  
 
Print Screen on your system for this. If you cannot, I would take the  
time to write them all =  
 
down.  
 
I used the fastest DMA mode, when I used IDE hard drives. I did not use  
PIO mode. =  
 
However, if you write down the BIOS settings, you can easily experiment  
with some of =  
 
these settings and recover, if necessary.  
HCM  
 
 
 
On Mon, 2 Jun 2003 02:59:08 PDT7, Info 4 SYNass wrote:  
 
>If you are responding to someone asking for help who  
>may not be a member of this list, be sure to use the  
>REPLY TO ALL feature of your email program.  
>  
>Hello everbody  
>Since I had the same difficulties installing my new WDC =  
 
>early this like Wayne ...  
>.... I would like to your your advice and suggestions regarding =  
 
>the settings in the BIOS:  
>  
>My present BIOS settings look like following  
>  
>BIOS - Standard CMOS Features:  
>-> IDE Primary Slave: WSC400EB-00CPF0  
>AUTO / LBA  
>40018 MB  
>CYL 4865  
>HEAD 255  
>PRECOMP 0  
>LZ 19157  
>SECTOR 63  
>  
>BIOS - Integrated Periphery:  
>Slave Drive PIO Mode =3D AUTO  
>  
>What do I need to watch with these settings ?  
>  
>What are the must avoid ??  
>What are the should / must do ??  
>  
>Can somebody of you exactly specify what and why =  
 
>to the respective settings parameters ???  
>  
>  
>With my other question regarding the choice of =  
 
>HDD's with OS/2 I have gotten positive answers =  
 
>only with so many brands and types of HDD that =  
 
>I am sure that I DO make a mistake with some =  
 
>of my settings here !!!  
>  
>  
>TWO more question:  
>  
>1) Can I just change the BIOS settings from LBA to CHS =  
 
>without risking the lost of my data !?  
>  
>BTW: On my experimantal system I just tried this !  
>All HDD's were set from LBA to CHS with the result =  
 
>that the system does not boot anymore ;-(  
>  
>Setting only the boot disk back to LBA and the other =  
 
>2 HDD's still leaving on CHS, the system boots again =  
 
>with NO problems ;-)  
>  
>  
>2) Does the cache size of 2MB or 8MB any negative =  
 
>affects to OS/2 ??? What must one watch reagarding =  
 
>this ???  
> =  
 
>  
>Your advice and suggestions are very appreciated =  
 
>and welcome !  
>  
>Kind regards, svobi  
>  
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