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Date: Fri, 2 May 2003 00:42:32 PDT7
From: jack.huffman@worldnet.att.net
Reply-To: scoug-help@scoug.com
To: scoug-help@scoug.com
Subject: SCOUG-Help: files not found

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In <200305012046.2757292.6@scoug.com>, on 05/01/2003
at 08:46 PM, "Harry Motin" said:

Harry,

I, and probably others, echo Martin's request.

I am planning to include in each backup to a Plextor CD-RW with RSJ:

1. Zipped (BAII calls it compressed) backup sets
2. Unimaint desktop and supplementary files which are zipped. 3. DFsee's
PSAVE which contains the master boot record record and the partition
table.

My concern is that the RSJ manual (p. 32) says that RSJ does not support
EA's. Steven and others on the Wednesday night help desk told me that
support must be provided by the backup program.

As I understand the situation, the BAII backup sets and the Unimaint
backups are not affected because the EA's are within the zip files created
by both pieces of software. They can be read back (complete with EA's)
from the CD-RW or a CD-R drive by the BAII recovery diskettes and the
appropriate Unimaint commands if the latter are on the diskettes too.

Am I correct in these conclusions?

My concerns are the PSAVE backups which to my knowledge are not zipped.
How do I save them to a CD-RW and restore them if necessary? Back them up
to my hard drive, zip them, transfer them to the CD-RW and use a command
that unzips them to the proper location? A PSAVE backup is so small it may
not be zipped. DFsee undoubtedly creates EA's when it creates the PSAVE
file; will they be written to the CR-RW if PSAVE is directed to the CD-RW
drive.

Another page of the RSJ manual says that a CDRW can be treated just like
another hard drive so far as making directories, storing and retrieving
files. Does that mean that my file manager, ZTBold, writes EA's to the
CD-RW when the program copies or moves a file from a hard drive partition
and reads them from the CD-RW when performing the reverse of these
operations?

One last question. When you attach the CD-RW drive for the first time as
a drive, say Z as RSJ suggests, is that drive added to the drives list?
Before attaching the CD-RW drive, I read a CD-ROM from the drive. The
drive letter was L, which is the designation for the CD-ROM drive I had
installed previously. There is no CD-ROM in my box nowl; only the Plextor
CD-RW unit.

TIA for your comments on my observations and questions. Maybe they will
help someone else.

Incidentally why don't you post the config.sys info you gave me here or in
an article on the SCOUG website? I think it would help others as much as
it helped me.

Jack

>On Thu, 1 May 2003 19:53:11 PDT7, Martin Rosenfeld wrote:

>>Maybe you or some of the other gurus can help me to set up a backup
>>system. I have BA2KSV and RSJ.

>Martin,

>I can probably help you. I have Back Again/2000 server (BA2K) and its
>crash recovery diskette system. I do backups to a second hard drive. I
>also have RSJ, but I have not been able to figure out how to make
>backups that span 2 or more CD's (BA2K does not correctly read the
>backup info on the CD's). Here's what I do:

>1. Use BA2K and make full backups to a second hard drive

>2. Use BA2K-created crash recovery diskettes to restore my full system
>from one of the backups stored on the second hard drive

>I use the OS/2 utility diskettes (4 diskettes), not the BOOTOS2 diskettes
> (2 diskettes), to create the BA2K crash recovery diskette system. BA2K
>gives you the choice of using one or the other.

>I'll guide you through the procedure of using the OS/2 utility diskettes,
> and not the BOOTOS2 diskettes. Here's the procedure:

>A. Open your BA2K folder and double click on the "Make Disaster Recovery
>Diskettes" icon (if you want to use the BOOTOS2 diskettes, double click
>on the "Make Disaster Recovery Diskettes BOOTOS2" icon)

>B. Follow the instructions to create the disaster recovery
>diskettes. The first step is to create the OS/2 utility diskettes. Do
>that by double clicking on the "System Setup" folder, which is inside
>your "OS/2 System" folder on your desktop. Then double click on the
>"Create Utility Diskettes" icon inside the "System Setup" folder. Follow
>the directions there. You will need 4 formatted, but blank diskettes and
>also the Warp installation CD.

>C. After you have created the OS/2 utility diskettes continue to follow
>the BA2K directions for creating the BA2K crash recovery diskettes. You
>will need to insert the correct utility diskettes into the drive bay,
>when directed. Also, you will need another blank, formatted diskette.

>D. After you have finished you will have 5 diskettes. Four will be from
>the OS/2 utility diskette procedure. Label them Diskette 0 through
>Diskette 3. The last diskette, Diskette 4, will be from the BA2K crash
>recovery diskette procedure.

>E. The BA2K procedure tries to update the CONFIG.SYS file
>(Diskette 1) with any new drivers that you are using on your system (for
>example, Daniela's IDE drivers instead of the IBM driver). It usually
>does a good job of this. Sometimes, however, it will over do it. For
>example, in my case it copies updates the CONFIG.SYS file with the
>Crystal audio drivers that are on my system and also the Norman
>antivirus programs. When using the diskettes, the Crystal drivers cause
>the bootup to trap. Therefore, I removed the Crystal driver lines from
>the CONFIG.SYS. I also removed the Norman antivirus stuff. I don't need
>it, when booting from diskettes.

>F. Copy any important OS/2 utility programs that you might need to
>Diskette 4 (for example, ATTRIB.EXE, CHKDSK.COM,
>CHKDSK32.DLL)

>G. I also placed several OS/2 *.CMD files on Diskettes 3 and 4, which
>help me restore my system from the diskettes

>H. Test out your crash recovery boot diskettes. Boot from them and make
>sure you can successfully boot. No traps. No problems. You will use
>Diskettes 0, 1 and 2 to boot up to a minimal OS/2 commandline system.
>You will use Diskette 3 to prepare your system for the restoration of
>your backup. That is, use Diskette 3 to: partition the hard drive,
>format the hard drive, run DIR, run ATTRIB, copy files, erase files,
>etc. Don't do this, of course, unless you really are restoring your
>system

>I. After you have successfully booted to a minimal OS/2 system (using
>Diskettes 0 through 3), insert Diskette 4 and type and enter "baii" at
>the commandline. This will load the BA2K crash recovery program and your
>mouse will become active. Test out the crash recovery program. Prove
>that you can find any of your backups (backups stored on a second hard
>drive, or written to CD, using RSJ). You can go as far as selecting and
>loading a backup into the crash recovery. Don't hit the "OK" button to
>start the recovery. Don't go that far.

>J. If you can do all that, you then have a good crash recovery system
>with BA2K.

>K. If you can go that far, I'll help you create some helpful *.CMD files
>for Diskette 3 to automate some processes.

>HCM

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