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What is the current ServicePack level for Win XP? Isn't it SP2?
On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 13:05:19 PDT7, waynec@linkline.com wrote:
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>Gary Wong writes:
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>> Wayne:
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>> I have a few questions:
>> 1) Did you install an XP service pack? I seem to recall that with Win2000 > you had
to install at least SP 1 or else it would clobber Boot Manager.
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>The WinXP install from the WinXP cdrom does clobber Boot Manager... which
>was the beginning of my problem, I couldn't get it set up again because
>FDISK wouldn't allow me to create a boot manager partition on the ide drive.
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>Yes, I did install the current service (everything that Microsoft
>recommended after inspecting my WinXP partition at their service webpage),
>after I installed WinXP from the WinXP cdrom.
>
>> 2) Which version of Partition Magic did you use?
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>Version 5, for the most part (I did a lot of looking and poking at the hard
>drives over the last few days), but also used version 7 for the ptedit
>program it contains.
>
>Wayne
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>> On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 01:01:40 PDT7, waynec@linkline.com wrote:
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>>>I got bootmanager working! Now I can choose to boot Windows XP Pro or Warp.
>>>Tried a LOT of things before I worked through the problems. It was
>>>apparently a combination of things.
>>>
>>>Hate to say it, but it looks like it was primarily the same issue I had last
>>>spring: partition type codes. I'm not positive, because I did several
>>>changes that made it work (and tried many more before that).
>>>
>>>First I deleted the boot manager partition from my first scsi drive, then
>>>physically disconnected the two scsi drives, and then was able to use FDISK
>>>(from Warp install diskettes, plus a utility diskette) to create a boot
>>>manager partition on the still-connected ide drive... that's something I
>>>wasn't able to do with the scsi drives connected (FDISK refused to put a
>>>boot manager partition on the ide drive, it had that option greyed-out).
>>>
>>>So I could then boot WinXP from the bootmanager screen.
>>>
>>>But when I reconnected the scsi drives, the Warp partition showed up on the
>>>bootmanager screen, but I still couldn't boot Warp from the bootmanager
>>>screen... I kept getting that "OS/2 is not able to operate your hard disk or
>>>diskette drive" message.
>>>
>>>So I took another hard look at the ide drive with the ptedit utility, and
>>>this time I located a code "F" on one partition, and I changed it to a "5".
>>>I hadn't seen this code in prior inspections, so I'm not sure if I
>>>overlooked it or if it wasn't there. "F" is the code later Windows versions
>>>use for an extended partition, whereas Warp only recognizes a "5" for that
>>>usage.
>>>
>>>That did the trick, now on the bootmanager screen WinXP C: shows up on the
>>>first (ide) drive, the Warp partition is D: on the second (first scsi)
>>>drive, and both will boot!
>>>
>>>FYI, the WinXP partition is formatted as NTFS, which has the same partition
>>>code ("7") as HPFS. WinXP sees the HPFS partitions, it just can't access
>>>them, so when they are cursor-clicked in Explorer, WinXP presents a message
>>>asking if you want to format the partition. Likewise, Warp can't access the
>>>NTFS partition.
>>>
>>>Wayne
>>>
>>>************** copy of my initial post follows ***************************
>>>
>>>waynec@linkline.com writes:
>>>
>>>> You may recall my travails last June as I tried to install a 40gb IDE
>>>> drive on a new barebones computer which also has (2) 9gb scsi drives.
>>>> I am once again having difficulties, and I am hoping someone here can
>>>> steer me in the right direction.
>>>>
>>>> Due to an illness (and subsequent death) in the family, I was away for
>>>> several months and not using the new system. Before I left I had it
>>>> working quite well, with a WinXP system on the ide and a Warp system on
>>>> the scsi, set up for boot manager, and could boot and run either.
>>>>
>>>> Very soon after returning home, I caught the "w32.swen" virus on WinXP
>>>> (see my reply post on the "returned email" thread), and I ended up
>>>> trashing that partition before it was over.
>>>>
>>>> I have rebuilt the WinXP partition, and had to let the install program
>>>> reformat the partition and remove it from the boot manager, as it will
>>>> only install WinXP to the first primary partition on the first drive. Now
>>>> I can't get boot manager working correctly and I can't remember exactly
>>>> how I had previously set it all up, or how I had the WinXP partition
>>>> formatted.
>>>>
>>>> The ide drive has:
>>>> - a 4gb primary NTFS partition with WinXP (label "WinXP"),
>>>> - a freespace of 1 cylinder in case I want a boot manager here
>>>> - a hidden HPFS logical Warp partition that is not currently in use,
>>>> - a lot of freespace.
>>>>
>>>> The first scsi drive has:
>>>> - an OS/2 bootmanager partition,
>>>> - a hidden FAT16 partition ("C_subst") for use as a substitute C:
>>>> partition in case I need to disconnect the ide drive,
>>>> - a hidden Warp HPFS logical partition ("Warp1vol") for emergency
>>>> maintenance use,
>>>> - a Warp HPFS ("ScsiWarp") logical partition
>>>> - 3 FAT16 data logical partitions
>>>> - 3 FAT16 one-cylinder placekeeper logical partitions (simply there to
>>>> allow drive letters that follow to match another computer)
>>>> - an HPFS logical data partition
>>>>
>>>> The second scsi drive has a single HPFS logical data partition that is
>>>> currently empty.
>>>>
>>>> FDISK, run from updated install diskettes, shows all 3 hard drives, mapped
>>>> correctly. PQmagic ver5, strangely, sees the ide and the first scsi drive,
>>>> mapped correctly, but doesn't show the second scsi drive.
>>>>
>>>> The Bios is set up to boot from the first scsi drive to bring up OS/2
>>>> bootmanager. If I put Warp1vol and ScsiWarp (only) in bootmanager, the
>>>> boot manager screen shows these partitions (with Warp1vol as hidden) as C:
>>>> drives, which is incorrect, because I need them to be D: drives.
>>>> Apparently it doesn't recognize the ide drive primary partition.
>>>>
>>>> I have tried to put WinXP in the bootmanager, but strangely, the partition
>>>> that shows up in the bootmanager screen is the bootmanager itself, an 8mb
>>>> partition (I have done multiple iterations, and this IS what it does).
>>>>
>>>> If I highlight that 8mb partition entry and hit enter, it simply
>>>> highlights the ScsiWarp entry.
>>>>
>>>> If I try to boot ScsiWarp from the boot manager screen, I get the initial
>>>> bootup selection/timer screens, followed immediately by the message "OS/2
>>>> is not able to operate your hard disk or diskette drive." Hard wait.
>>>>
>>>> If I "unhide" the C_subst partition, the boot manager screen shows the 2
>>>> scsi partitions as D: drives, but if I boot ScsiWarp, I get the same "OS/2
>>>> is not able...." message.
>>>>
>>>> If I disconnect the ide drive and "unhide" C_subst, then OS/2 boots fine.
>>>>
>>>> If I reconnect the ide drive,and change the bios to boot from the ide
>>>> drive, then WinXP boots up fine.
>>>>
>>>> I tried moving the boot manager partition to the ide drive. Same problems.
>>>>
>>>> I have run chkdsk against the scsi partition and it is fine. I have tried
>>>> to run diagnostics against the WinXP drive, but WinXP won't do that while
>>>> it is running, rather it asks you if you want to schedule a run for the
>>>> next bootup, and if you do so, it seems to take a long time booting but no
>>>> messages are shown (blank screen) before the normal signon screen, so it's
>>>> difficult to tell what happened. I have to assume that the drives are OK,
>>>> since I can boot one or the other of the two operating systems, I just
>>>> can't get them both on the boot manager screen, nor can I boot ScsiWarp
>>>> when the ide drive is connected.
>>>>
>>>> One questionable area: I think (I'm not certain) I may have formatted the
>>>> WinXP partition as FAT32 originally back in June; this time it was
>>>> formatted as NTFS. HPFS and NTFS both have partition code "07". Could this
>>>> be a problem? I am reticent to go through yet another WinXP install and
>>>> customization just to find out. Other partition codes on the drives appear
>>>> to be normal OS/2 codes.
>>>>
>>>> What else should I look at to resolve this problem so I can use boot
>>>> manager?
>>>>
>>>> Wayne
>>>>
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