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513 ===================================================== If you are responding to someone asking for help who may not be a member of this list, be sure to use the REPLY TO ALL feature of your email program. ===================================================== This is a MIME-formatted message. If you see this text it means that your mail software cannot handle MIME-formatted messages. --=_0_97539_1055543591 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Steven Levine writes: > In <20030613034257.17354.qmail@courtney.linkline.com>, on 06/12/03 > at 08:42 PM, waynec@linkline.com said: > >>Finding that "Selective Install for Networking" object would be a big >>help. > > You either lost it or never installed it. :-) You are probably right, I didn't know "Installation Utilities" weren't a default or that they provided those objects. > > IIRC, you can get the folder back with Selective Install. Click on Next > until you get to the page listing Optional System Utilities. Check it. > Click on More and select Installation Utilities. > > If that fails, just run \ibminst\npconfig.exe from either the hard drive > or the Warp4 CD. I'll try it. > >>What do you think I've been trying to do for the last three weeks? > > Don't ask. :-) I don't have to, really.... but I say again, I do not claim to be an expert on OS/2, never had any formal training on it. > >>For instance, I sent out several iptrace >>listings of my "not able to find www.abcde.com" problem, including one >>to you > > That may well be true, but I sure can't find them, so you need to resend > them. The last correspondence I have on your abcde problem was regarding > nslookup traps. Apparently I made the mistake of putting the term "www.xxxxxx.com" in my email to you (where "xxxxxx" was meant to be a substitute for whatever website I was trying to go to) and the email was probably intercepted by a spam filter and relegated to your spam file. I was not aware of this spam filter requirement. I sometimes find scoug posts in my own spam file, as well... now I know how it happens. I'll send the trace to you separately, but I suspect that's a futile effort and that it would be more productive for me to re-install the networking folders. > >>I asked point blank (several times in my >>prior posts over the past days) how I could re-install those folders to > > Keep in mind that while you may be frustrated by your inability to resolve > your problems, the folks on this list are busy as times and the help is > given for free. Yes, I am aware of that, and I appreciate the help... the problems have been so numerous that if I waited a day or two to get replies on each before trying anything else, it would be a year or two before I got through them. So I admit I have done a lot of muddling along, trying to make progress or at least make sense of the problems at hand. I've asked "big picture" questions frequently (purposely omitting details at times) because I needed to try to see the forest instead of the trees. This last issue is an example. > >>What "process"??? If you've got one, I sure wish you'd share it with me, > > I did. It's the same process we used to get working boot diskettes for > you AMD box. Well, actually we never did get working boot diskettes for my AMD... I just thought we did at one point because they finally booted up. The problems I cited were on the AMD, which is the ONLY machine I have been trying to make the install diskettes for.... I already had a set that worked fine on the P2. > >>computer, and fixed on the other. I'm STILL struggling! (except today I > > I guess I'll say it again. I don't know how to fix struggle. If you > provide an explanation of the failure that I can understand, I or someone > else can usually provide a solution. However, until we understand your > explanation of the problem, solutions are unlikely. Let me try again: 1. I have the problem of building a Warp partition on the AMD that sees and understands the WDC 40gb ide drive that I added after cloning my old Warp from the P2 to the scsi on the AMD. I had also originally done a vanilla install of Warp from diskettes onto a second scsi partition before I got the 40gb ide drive, but neither partition was bootable after the ide drive was attached. Problem 1 is partially solved, in that I was finally able to build a new (from scratch) Warp partition on the ide drive from the Warp cdrom, the WarpUp cdrom and the tailored install diskettes, except that: a) The tailored install diskettes never did work "automagically", I still had to manually transfer a number of files onto the hard drive (they were on the install diskettes but were not transferred onto the hard drive during the install process). I also had to tailor the config.sys on the hard drive. This was a very lengthy reiterative process until I finally had the install diskettes seeing both drives (u160 scsi and 40gb ide), and creating an installable partition on the ide drive, and then, after the Warp install, getting it to boot up. b) This new Warp ide partition is a "vanilla" Warp, with none of the installed programs and customizations I have on my old Warp partition, so I now have the problem of figuring out how to get those things onto the new Warp. c) This new Warp ide partition is very close to the front of the drive, far closer than I'd like, because I wanted to leave lots of room for a future WinXP partition. Right now I have a 4000mb empty primary partition at the front, followed by a 7mb Boot Manager partition, followed by a 1992mb hpfs logical Warp partition, followed by freespace. That seemed to be as far from the beginning of the drive that fdisk would allow me to build an installable partition. If I could solve b) I could run Warp off the scsi drive and let WinXP have a bigger partition on the ide drive. I purposely built this ide Warp partition to prove that I could do it, and to see if a brand new Warp would eliminate the "www.abcdefg.com not found... " problem... see 3, below). It did not have problem 3, but I also have to solve b) and c) in order to put that knowledge to good use. 2. I had the unrelated problem of not being able to connect to the Netware server on a third computer, a PS/2. This turned out to be a hardware problem in that I had an ethernet cable plugged into a port that (I have since found out) is shared with the "uplink" port on my LinkSys router (the LinkSys literature tells you to plug the server into the "uplink" port), and using that associated port is a "no-no" that I did not know was a "no-no". Problem 2 is solved. 3. On the P2 I have the "www.abcdefg.com not found. Please check the name and try again." problem. This problem was, of course, propogated to the AMD when I first cloned the Warp partition onto the AMD's scsi drive as "scsiWarp". I know all that is confusing... essentially right now I have 2 computers I'm working on: The P2, which has been my primary computer, still has the "www.abcdefg.com not found ..." problem, and is obviously missing the installation utilities. It has a lot of customizations and programs I'd like to keep. The AMD, my recent addition, which now has: 1. A vanilla Warp fp15+ partition on the ide drive but in the wrong place, I want to leave much more room for a future WinXP. 2. A vanilla Warp fp15+ maintenance partition on the scsi drive, which stopped booting once I installed the ide drive. I haven't made a concerted effort to get this partition working again. 3. A cloned scsiWarp partition that has all the problems, installed programs, and customizations of the Warp on the P2. In the future I want; A) the AMD to be bootable either from scsiWarp (with all my customizations and installed programs), or from WinXP B) the P2 updated to eliminate the "www.abcdefg.com not found ..." problem, and updated/fixed so it is more maintainable (ie, the missing "Selective Install for Networking" and other stuff) C) a set of install diskettes that actually work without requiring a lot of manual revisions to the resultant hard drive libraries. How about some "big picture" advice on how to proceed, with enough detail to get me started? > >>diskette's config.sys), AND with an fdisk that sees the entire ide >>drive, AND the scsi drive. I still haven't successfully created a set >>that does ALL of that. > > For which system? Again you are not being clear. We have, so far, worked > with you an at least 3 different systems. You may know which system you > are talking about and exactly what you think you have on the diskettes and > in config.sys. I can only guess and I tend to be a bad guesser. See my comments above; diskette contents will be attached as files to this email. > >>had no communications folders on it at all... go figure! (my guess... it >>altered the corresponding folders on a different partition, or didn't > > Like I said, I'm a bad guesser. So am I, but in retrospect, I seem to recall once in the distant past when I re-installed networking (apparently I had the right objects at that time) and it saw the network folders on another partition and either did not re-install that time, either, or it upgraded the other folders (can't remember which), hence my guess. > >>apparently insists on it being very close to the beginning of the drive, > > Again insufficient information. Define close. Warp4 can only boot from > partitions located in the first 1024 logical cylinders. See above. Apparently 1024 logical cylinders is a very small portion of the 40gb drive. > >>even though it is a logical partition). Side note: I also learned fdisk >>apparently sees an ntfs partition as if it were an hpfs partition. As I > > That's expected. MS decided to use the same partition type code for NTFS. Wasn't expected by me, it was a revelation... so how do Warp and WinXP coexist? Wayne --=_0_97539_1055543591 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="disk1.lst" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; name="disk1.lst" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The volume label in drive A is DISK 1. Directory of A:\ AHA164X ADD 20022 8-12-96 1:29a AIC7870 ADD 39886 8-14-96 2:45a AIC7870 SNP 9104 8-12-96 2:42a AICU160 ADD 164332 6-01-00 11:29a AUDDRIVE SNP 6491 8-12-96 2:44a BSAUDIO SNP 4920 8-12-96 2:44a BTSCSI ADD 22591 8-12-96 1:40a BTSCSI SNP 5731 8-12-96 2:33a BUILD ID 10 5-31-01 10:29p CDINST EXE 16832 8-12-96 2:00a CHINCDS1 FLT 4816 8-12-96 1:49a CLOCK01 SYS 4048 8-12-96 3:06a CLOCK02 SYS 4114 8-12-96 3:06a CONFIG ORG 1477 7-01-97 9:00a CONFIG SYS 1773 6-05-03 7:48p CONFIG X 595 6-14-96 11:03a DAC960 ADD 20766 8-12-96 1:44a DAC960 SNP 3243 8-12-96 2:36a DPT20XX ADD 24700 8-12-96 1:39a Press any key when ready . . . (Continuing A:\) DPT20XX SNP 6706 8-12-96 2:33a FD16-700 ADD 30670 8-28-96 6:45a FD16-700 SNP 3625 8-28-96 6:47a FD7000EX ADD 21052 8-12-96 1:36a FD7000EX SNP 3956 8-12-96 2:32a FD8XX ADD 30232 8-12-96 1:37a FD8XX SNP 4446 8-12-96 2:32a FLASHPT ADD 53783 8-14-96 2:48a FLASHPT SNP 4158 8-12-96 2:33a IBM1FLPY ADD 35310 8-12-96 1:23a IBM1FLPY SNP 2391 8-12-96 2:36a IBM1S506 ADD 63586 12-20-02 7:43a IBM1S506 SNP 8932 8-22-96 10:49a IBM2ADSK ADD 9916 8-12-96 1:24a IBM2FLPY ADD 14420 8-12-96 1:24a IBM2SCSI ADD 32849 8-12-96 1:26a IBMATAPI FLT 31204 10-08-02 7:17a IBMIDECD FLT 24656 10-08-02 6:18a IBMINT13 I13 9982 8-12-96 1:26a IBMKBD SNP 1404 8-12-96 2:28a IBMKBD SYS 7726 8-12-96 2:01a IR SNP 3632 8-12-96 2:44a ISAPNP SNP 21372 8-14-96 2:57a Press any key when ready . . . (Continuing A:\) JAZZ16 SNP 2878 8-12-96 2:44a JJSCDROM DMD 39428 9-11-01 12:37p KBDBASE SYS 29013 8-12-96 2:04a LMS206 ADD 38732 8-06-96 12:19p MOUSE SNP 3744 8-12-96 2:29a NETDET1 SNP 11278 8-15-96 7:03p NETDET2 SNP 14414 8-22-96 10:54a OS2DASD DMD 40956 9-06-02 10:38a OS2LOGO 60979 8-06-96 11:56a PARALLEL SNP 3040 8-22-96 10:58a PAS16 SNP 4798 8-12-96 2:32a PCIBUS SNP 2496 6-09-97 12:31p PCMCIA SNP 3908 8-12-96 2:43a PNP SYS 2152 8-14-96 2:56a QL10OS2 ADD 37420 8-10-96 6:28p QL10OS2 SNP 6540 8-14-96 3:00a QL40OS2 ADD 24038 8-12-96 1:44a QL40OS2 SNP 4800 8-12-96 2:43a QL510 ADD 19272 8-09-96 12:15a QL510 SNP 4848 8-12-96 2:43a README INS 32845 8-28-96 3:04a RESERVE SYS 5704 8-12-96 1:14a RESOURCE SYS 39992 8-12-96 1:10a Press any key when ready . . . (Continuing A:\) RESRV SNP 5259 8-12-96 2:39a SBCD2 ADD 18836 8-12-96 1:50a SBCD2 SNP 2843 8-12-96 2:33a SCREEN01 SYS 12104 3-23-01 8:14p SCREEN02 SYS 11436 8-12-96 1:25a SERIAL SNP 3276 8-12-96 2:28a SNDBLAST SNP 6776 8-12-96 2:32a SNDGALAX SNP 4640 8-12-96 2:32a SNOOP LST 706 6-04-03 3:26p SNOOP ORG 596 8-25-96 12:00p SONY31A ADD 32738 8-12-96 1:53a SONY31A SNP 8150 8-12-96 2:36a SONY535 ADD 19544 8-12-96 1:54a TMV1SCSI ADD 21644 8-12-96 1:21a XDFLOPPY FLT 14820 3-04-96 5:35p 80 file(s) 1378102 bytes used 49664 bytes free --=_0_97539_1055543591 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="disk2.lst" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; name="disk2.lst" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The volume label in drive A is DISK 2. Directory of A:\ ANSICALL DLL 512 8-12-96 3:00a BKSCALLS DLL 512 8-12-96 3:00a BMSCALLS DLL 512 8-12-96 3:02a BUILD ID 10 6-01-01 6:28p BUNDLE 366082 8-29-96 11:05p BVHINIT DLL 10540 8-12-96 2:08a BVSCALLS DLL 512 8-12-96 2:59a CDBOOT EXE 8696 8-27-96 12:55p CDFS IFS 43369 8-12-96 2:43a CMD EXE 74640 8-09-96 12:15a COUNTRY SYS 36185 8-09-96 12:29a DEL LST 46423 8-27-96 11:10a DISK NUM 30 8-14-96 9:30p DOS SYS 1142 12-04-95 11:22p DOSCALL1 DLL 123744 8-08-97 4:54p FDISK COM 114878 11-15-00 7:37p FIXVGA 30863 3-28-01 7:53a FIXVGA CMD 417 3-27-01 4:31p HARDERR EXE 9415 8-13-96 11:05a Press any key when ready . . . (Continuing A:\) HPFS IFS 141378 8-13-96 11:17a KBDCALLS DLL 1024 8-12-96 3:02a KEYBOARD DCP 28097 8-09-96 12:58a MARKETNG MSG 9086 8-12-96 1:42a MOUCALLS DLL 1024 8-12-96 3:02a MOUSE SYS 18649 8-12-96 1:58a MSG DLL 512 8-12-96 2:56a NAMPIPES DLL 1024 8-12-96 3:02a NLS DLL 512 8-12-96 2:55a NPXEMLTR DLL 21812 8-12-96 3:21a OS2CDROM DMD 32152 5-23-00 9:04a OS2CHAR DLL 512 8-12-96 2:58a POINTDD SYS 1811 8-12-96 2:18a QUECALLS DLL 1024 8-12-96 2:57a RMINFO DLL 22847 8-12-96 1:13a RMVIEW EXE 32503 8-12-96 1:13a SCREEN01 SYS 12104 3-23-01 8:14p SESMGR DLL 1536 8-12-96 2:52a SIPANEL1 DLL 37408 8-12-96 2:01a SYSINST1 EXE 4240 8-12-96 1:43a SYSINST2 EXE 159984 8-13-96 3:11a SYSLEVEL OS2 165 8-12-96 1:30a TEDIT EXE 9390 8-09-96 1:02a Press any key when ready . . . (Continuing A:\) TEDIT HLP 212 6-14-96 10:58a TESTCFG SYS 9808 8-12-96 2:21a VIOCALLS DLL 2048 8-14-96 5:06a VTBL850 DCP 10478 8-09-96 1:00a 46 file(s) 1429822 bytes used 7680 bytes free --=_0_97539_1055543591 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="disk3.lst" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; name="disk3.lst" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The volume label in drive A is DISK 3. The Volume Serial Number is D87C:2814. Directory of A:\ BACKUP EXE 35040 11-15-00 7:36p CHKDSK COM 70720 11-15-00 7:33p CHKDSK32 DLL 139227 10-06-00 2:03p CHKDSK32 EXE 6417 10-06-00 1:52p DASD32 DMD 37467 6-28-02 8:56a DISKCOPY COM 46196 11-15-00 7:36p FDISK COM 114878 11-15-00 7:37p FORMAT COM 72064 11-15-00 7:35p IBM1FLPY ADD 35418 10-08-02 6:02a IBM1S506 ADD 63586 12-20-02 7:43a IBMATAPI FLT 31204 10-08-02 7:17a IBMIDECD FLT 24656 10-08-02 6:18a IDE16 DDP 434 7-19-01 9:29a IDE32 DDP 434 7-19-01 9:29a LOADDSKF EXE 14168 9-01-93 1:41p NLS DLL 512 11-15-00 6:31p ODPANS DLL 21968 8-12-96 2:14a ODPRTDRV EXE 12039 8-12-96 2:14a OS2CDROM DMD 40156 10-08-02 6:14a Press any key when ready . . . (Continuing A:\) OSDELETE EXE 68356 8-12-96 2:13a OSO001 MSG 175354 11-14-00 3:59p PATH_AMD CMD 31 6-03-03 5:07p RESTORE EXE 39280 11-15-00 7:39p SHPIINST DLL 37304 10-19-00 8:57p TEDIT EXE 9390 9-05-00 4:41p TEDIT HLP 14595 6-03-03 11:45p UHPFS DLL 104976 10-06-00 2:03p UNZIP EXE 139827 11-04-97 2:19a VIOCALLS DLL 2048 10-19-00 2:01p 29 file(s) 1357745 bytes used 82432 bytes free --=_0_97539_1055543591 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="disk1.snoop.lst" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; name="disk1.snoop.lst" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ; snoop.lst - for Wayne - with excess SNPs disabled ; Sat May 31 22:26:48 PDT 2003 SHL resrv.snp netdet1.snp ibmkbd.snp ibm1flpy.snp ibm1s506.snp ; SCSI Snoopers ;aha6360.snp ;aha154x.snp ;aha174x.snp aic7870.snp ;ql10os2.snp ;ql40os2.snp ;ql510.snp ;ipsraid.snp ;btscsi.snp ;fd16-700.snp ;fd8xx.snp ;fd7000ex.snp ;dpt20xx.snp ;flashpt.snp ;dac960.snp ; Misc. Snoopers pcmcia.snp ir.snp netdet2.snp ; CDROM Snoopers ;mitfx001.snp sbcd2.snp ;sony31a.snp ; Audio Snoopers ;sndgalax.snp ;auddrive.snp ;jazz16.snp ;sndblast.snp ;pas16.snp ;bsaudio.snp ; Misc. Snoopers parallel.snp mouse.snp serial.snp ; Note: Place additional snoopers above this line pcibus.snp --=_0_97539_1055543591 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="disk1.config.sys.lst" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; name="disk1.config.sys.lst" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit rem config.sys - for Wayne - with excess drivers disabled rem Sat May 31 22:26:40 PDT 2003 SHL basedev=aicu160.add /v basedev=ibm1s506.add /v set copyfromfloppy=1 buffers=32 iopl=yes memman=swap,delayswap protshell=sysinst1.exe set os2_shell=sysinst2.exe diskcache=D2,LW protectonly=yes libpath=.;\;\os2\dll;\os2\install; ifs=hpfs.ifs /d:64 pauseonerror=no codepage=850 devinfo=kbd,us,keyboard.dcp devinfo=scr,ega,vtbl850.dcp device=\dos.sys device=\mouse.sys set path=\;\os2;\os2\system;\os2\install set dpath=\;\os2;\os2\system;\os2\install set keys=on basedev=ibmkbd.sys basedev=ibm1flpy.add rem basedev=danis506.add /v basedev=ibm2flpy.add basedev=ibm2adsk.add basedev=ibm2scsi.add basedev=ibmint13.i13 basedev=os2dasd.dmd rem basedev=danidasd.dmd rem basedev=jjscdrom.dmd device=\testcfg.sys basedev=xdfloppy.flt set os2_shell=cdinst.exe set saveconnect=1 set cdrominst=1 ifs=cdfs.ifs /q rem basedev=aha152x.add rem basedev=aha154x.add basedev=aha164x.add rem basedev=aha174x.add rem basedev=aic7770.add basedev=aic7870.add rem basedev=btscsi.add rem basedev=fd16-700.add rem basedev=fd8xx.add rem basedev=fd7000ex.add rem basedev=dpt20xx.add rem basedev=dac960.add rem basedev=flashpt.add rem basedev=ipsraid.add rem basedev=ql10os2.add rem basedev=ql40os2.add rem basedev=ql510.add basedev=chincds1.flt rem basedev=hitcds1.flt rem basedev=neccds1.flt rem basedev=sonycds1.flt rem basedev=toshcds1.flt basedev=ibmidecd.flt rem basedev=tmv1scsi.add basedev=sony535.add rem basedev=lms206.add rem 154569 basedev=lms205.add rem basedev=mitfx001.add basedev=sbcd2.add rem basedev=sony31a.add device=\os2cdrom.dmd set os2_shell=cdboot.exe set oemprogram=\ibminst\npconfig.exe set exitwhendone=1 --=_0_97539_1055543591-- ===================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send an email message to "steward@scoug.com". 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