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Date:	Mon, 30 Aug 2004 20:57:40 PDT7
From:	"Steven Levine" <steve53@earthlink.net >
Reply-To:	scoug-help@scoug.com
To:	scoug-help@scoug.com
Subject:	SCOUG-Help: Mozilla 1.7 extremely slow

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In <4133E78A.14E2@peterskye.com>, on 08/30/04
at 07:51 PM, Peter Skye said:

>233 MHz Pentium MMX. 256 MB. Memory monitor shows plenty of memory
>still available, and the swap file hasn't been touched.

It's probably compute bound.

>FWIW, Mozilla 1.7.2 is _much_ slower than 1.0, and Mozilla 1.0 is _much_
>slower than Netscape 4.61.

The both do a lot more than NS4.61. That said for most things my
experience is Mozilla is much faster.

>Henry said it ran fine on his
>machine.

That makes sense. Bookmark pages of not terribly complex. At the worst,
Mozilla might waste some time re-rendering the page bacause it takes a
while to read it all in.

>I don't think it's my hard drive since "last access" is 10
>minutes before the page finishes rendering and the hard drive light is
>mostly off.

Any possibility you have incrediby huge cache or history settings? I keep
the disk cache set to 1MB since I have plenty of RAM. I keep the history
set to 4 days which is good enough for my uses.

>No I don't have the turbo switch set wrong.

Sometimes switches lie. :-)

>_*Okay*_. Maybe that's the problem.

No, this has nothing to do with page load speed.

>The Steve Wendt page says the plug-ins require something newer than 1.1.8
>but it doesn't say I can't use 1.1.8 for the main program.

You can run all the Java 1.1.8 compatible applications you want to. Why
would the broswer care what Java you use to run applications with? You
will not convince Mozilla to use your v1.1.8 to run applets unless you
haul out your coding pencil and write your own version of ipluginw.dll

>I'm not
>doubting your words,

That's no problem. You'll figure out whether I'm right or wrong soon
enough.

> There's a comment down lower about having the JAVA_HOME
>environment variable point to Java 1.3, but it never says you can't use
>1.1.8.

This is all fine. You just need to learn the difference between Java
applications and Java applets.

>It sounds like I have a Java problem. Yes?

No. You have a browser problem. Think about it. How could a Java
problem have anything to do with loading a page that invokes no Java
applets?

>May I be ornery for a moment? Why doesn't the stupid program *check*
>which version of Java is running and tell you if it doesn't like what it
>finds?

It does check and it does report. Why don't you know how to view the
plugin status after using a browser for all these years?

Steven

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