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Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2004 22:05:54 PDT7
From: Peter Skye <pskye@peterskye.com >
Reply-To: scoug-help@scoug.com
To: scoug-help@scoug.com
Subject: SCOUG-Help: Re: Audio recording / editing programs?

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J. R. Fox wrote:
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> Peter Skye wrote:
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> > longer wires have more (apologies for the technical jargon)
> > capacitance which, when connected to your high impedance
> > Line In, causes the high frequencies to degrade.
>
> Tony had ... *long* cable runs of these fat, custom
> (I'm assuming rather fancy & expensive) cables, over to what looked like a
> fairly elaborate recording setup. You raised similar objections then, but
> (again, I'm assuming) he was obtaining superior results for all this effort.

Define "superior results". :)))

Longer cables have more capacitance. They also have more resistance.
That combination into a high impedance load causes the knee of the 6
dB/octave high frequency rolloff to drop. As long as you keep the -3 dB
point "way up there" (50 KHz is a nice number) then you won't measure
anything bad. As long as you keep the -3 dB point at a decent frequency
(say 15 KHz) then you're not going to hear anything bad. ("bad" in this
case refers to high frequency rolloff)

> In our earlier discussion, you said that the audio card carrying
> the music signal into the H/D was always going to be the weak link.

And it still is. But I think Tom was looking for a cost-effective
solution.

> The price doesn't especially deter me; mediocre quality of
> results would. I'm still interested in a good solution.

Pick up your phone and call a local sound studio. Then pick up your
turntable and discs and hike yourself over there and let _them_ do the
transfer.

> You seem to have a lot more expertise in this area.

Umm, yeah. 35 million listeners can't be wrong.

> It may be that to do this job right, one needs
> much fancier gear, and possibly to do this with
> tools only available under Windoze.

The highest quality semi-pro audio gear, and this is just my opinion,
runs on a Mac.

Hardware-wise, you need a high quality A-to-D converter for every
channel with a low-jitter clock plus a driver for your operating
system. CDs use 16 bits at 44.1 KHz; I have my own preferences when
recording in the studio but your target is 16 bits at 44.1 KHz. Once
your sound is digitized you can fiddle with it all you want.

- Peter

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