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Date:	Sun, 13 Jun 2004 18:51:37 PDT7
From:	"J. R. Fox" <jr_fox@pacbell.net >
Reply-To:	scoug-help@scoug.com
To:	scoug-help@scoug.com
Subject:	SCOUG-Help: Re: OS2CDROM + RSJ a No-Go

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Harry Motin wrote:

> My Yamaha is a CD-RW/CD-R/CD unit. Haven't gotten around to buying and installing
> DVD.

Hi Harry,

You proabably will, sooner or later. Prices are dropping steadily. The current Pioneer A07 can
be bought at Pomona for around half of what it cost me there for the preceding A06 model, last
August. They just had a much discussed NEC dual-layer-capable model there (OEM) for $80., and
the vendor agreed to eat the sales tax. Compare that to the $40. I spent on a basic Sony
DVD-reader a couple years ago.

> My real point here is that your DVD unit MAY NOT be auto-detected by your new
> version of RSJ. If it is auto-detected, it will probably be listed in the cddrv.inf file.
> However, the BEST way to be sure is to install RSJ first without trying to use Daniela's
> drivers for the back door. That is, don't REM out the BASEDEV=RSJIDECD.FLT and
> BASEDEV=LOCKCDR.FLT lines and don't use Daniela's CONFIG.SYS setup.

I've been doing it every which way, with negative results. In most Config.Sys versions, the
drive is being reported as follows:

Pioneer DVD-RW DVR-106D dynamic detect --> CD Rec (changed to WORM) (BP)

with that first part being exactly what it is.

> That way, when you boot up, the RSJ loading drivers should echo that they found and
> detected your DVD unit. Perhaps you should try that first.

Thanks, but Been There, Done That.

Now that the Help List Digest edition is defunct, I can send you an attachment. I started around
10 a.m. this morning, and threw in the towell for the day just now. I started by harvesting all
apparently relevant messages I could find on the RSJ support Newsgroup. (I d/l'd 5700 headers,
dating back to 1999. The "Search Newsgroup Messages" feature in Mozilla is a wondrous thing,
which I have wanted to see for years now. Is that how *you* do this, as referenced in another
recent message ? In the past, I used the Deja Power Search form, which seems to be only archival
in nature -- not much coverage for the prior 12 months + of activity, at least.) The bulk of
this Zip is a set of messages from there.

One message in there, from last year, really annoyed me . . . and you will know which one right
away. The tone bordered on the hostile and obnoxious. I think it would be far better not to
answer at all than to write something like this, which is spectacularly unhelpful. So, I would
say the guy has to be a colossal jerk. I mean, if someone actually *knows* the answer, but
doesn't have the time to write it from scratch (and the question _has been_ answered a few times,
as he said), he could at least paste in someone else's previous answer, or direct the questioner
to a FAQ or specific news post that covers it, or *something*. I've done that before myself, and
it's quick, with minimal effort.

There are plenty of us -- technically challenged, perhaps -- who *did* put in several hours of
research time, sliced & diced CONFIG.SYS accordingly, but *still* have nothing to show for it.
I'll get off the soapbox now, but not before I commend you, Harry, for taking the polar opposite
tack. Time and time again, I've seen you go out of your way to try to be helpful, explaining
something in detail, generally from scratch. It is much appreciated, whatever may come of it.

Where it stands at the moment: the Zip has a Config.Sys that will let me read CDs, and does not
bounce OS2CDROM. But no RSJ. And it has one that seems to load the RSJ stuff, but is useless
because OS2CDROM will not take. I have replaced just about every driver that has any role to
play in this, from the eCS 1.1 install default over to the most recent driver versions. Hasn't
made a difference. As you can gather from some of those newsgroup messages, I'm hardly alone in
having such problems.

It is really a drag, needing to burn CDs on this box in preparation for my demo on Sat., and
having to boot over to W2K + Nero in order to do it.

Jordan

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