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Date:	Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:33:42 PDT7
From:	Steve Carter <scarter@vcnet.com >
Reply-To:	scoug-help@scoug.com
To:	scoug-help@scoug.com
Subject:	SCOUG-Help: beep won't

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Peter, Steven and Mark:

Thanks for the discussion of cmd.exe replacements so far, complete
with links.

Someday I'd like to learn more about Steven's file organization scheme.
\usr is a UNIX-ism, and I've never really understood its use,
especially how it might apply to my mostly-single-user machine.

Steven's use of \Apps seems similar to the "other guys'" use of
\Program Files, which I now realize conserves root directory entries,
and reduces/organizes directory clutter.

Aside: an former DOS user friend threw all sorts of rubbish in \bin,
thinking it meant something like "dust bin", a British-ism for trash.
Arghh!

I, too, own the Graham Utilities.
But years ago, in the days of Norton Utilities v4 I think,
I made up a simple batch file for a beep, mostly just to
see if it would actually work (it does):

@echo [-G]

(Not every editor is good at entering the code for Control-G.)

The overhead to execute a simple beep is certainly excessive,
but since it is intended for (relatively) slow human beings
it may not matter. And of course, today's machines are
significantly faster than yesterday's. [Unfortunately, mine
is from yesteryear.]

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
On 4/10/05, Steven Levine wrote, in part:
>On 04/10/05, Peter Skye said:
>
>>Here are 12 beeps. I only get 11, then SYS0008. Why?
>
>Because you are using the braindead.exe (aka cmd.exe).
>Yes, there is an echo in here.
>
>With 4os2:
>
>[j:\tmp]beep & beep & beep & beep & beep & beep & beep & beep & beep &
>beep & beep & beep [Beep, V2.00 - 31/08/96 - (C) Chris Graham - WarpSpeed
>Computers] [Beep, V2.00 - 31/08/96 - (C) Chris Graham - WarpSpeed
>Computers] [Beep, V2.00 - 31/08/96 - (C) Chris Graham - WarpSpeed
>Computers] [Beep, V2.00 - 31/08/96 - (C) Chris Graham - WarpSpeed
>Computers] [Beep, V2.00 - 31/08/96 - (C) Chris Graham - WarpSpeed
>Computers] [Beep, V2.00 - 31/08/96 - (C) Chris Graham - WarpSpeed
>Computers] [Beep, V2.00 - 31/08/96 - (C) Chris Graham - WarpSpeed
>Computers] [Beep, V2.00 - 31/08/96 - (C) Chris Graham - WarpSpeed
>Computers] [Beep, V2.00 - 31/08/96 - (C) Chris Graham - WarpSpeed
>Computers] [Beep, V2.00 - 31/08/96 - (C) Chris Graham - WarpSpeed
>Computers] [Beep, V2.00 - 31/08/96 - (C) Chris Graham - WarpSpeed
>Computers] [Beep, V2.00 - 31/08/96 - (C) Chris Graham - WarpSpeed
>Computers]
>
>With braindead.exe:
>
>[J:\TMP][j:\tmp]beep & beep & beep & beep & beep & beep & beep & beep &
>beep & beep SYS1041: The name [j:\tmp]beep is not recognized as an
>internal or external command, operable program or batch file. [Beep, V2.00
>- 31/08/96 - (C) Chris Graham - WarpSpeed Computers] [Beep, V2.00 -
>31/08/96 - (C) Chris Graham - WarpSpeed Computers] [Beep, V2.00 - 31/08/96
>- (C) Chris Graham - WarpSpeed Computers] [Beep, V2.00 - 31/08/96 - (C)
>Chris Graham - WarpSpeed Computers] [Beep, V2.00 - 31/08/96 - (C) Chris
>Graham - WarpSpeed Computers] [Beep, V2.00 - 31/08/96 - (C) Chris Graham -
>WarpSpeed Computers] [Beep, V2.00 - 31/08/96 - (C) Chris Graham -
>WarpSpeed Computers] [Beep, V2.00 - 31/08/96 - (C) Chris Graham -
>WarpSpeed Computers] SYS0008: There is not enough memory available to
>process this command. All available memory is in use.
>
>Steven
>
>-- "Steven Levine" MR2/ICE 2.67 #10183
>Warp4.something/14.100c_W4
>www.scoug.com irc.fyrelizard.com #scoug (Wed 7pm PST)
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