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Date:	Mon, 4 Jul 2005 11:27:02 PDT7
From:	J R FOX <jr_fox@pacbell.net >
Reply-To:	scoug-help@scoug.com
To:	scoug-help@scoug.com
Subject:	SCOUG-Help: Flash5 problem

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--- jack.huffman@worldnet.att.net wrote:

> Every time I try to use the demonstration sites of
> Flash 5 it opens ns4.61
> which I don't use but still have on my H partition.
> If I encounter Flash
> on an url, it always tells me to download it.

Jack,

I don't know exactly what the problem is, but it seems
to me that you must not have Flash installed
correctly. There is a basic, documented procedure --
2 or 3 steps -- for installing it into Mozilla, and
then you ought to know whether it is working or not
right away. I think you should have Mozilla running
already, *then* open your Flash-based URL . . . as
opposed to double-clicking on some URL you may find in
some other document, or have left an object for on
your desktop. That should not leave to chance the
browser that opens to deal with your request. If 4.61
still opens anyway, I'd guess you have a different
problem -- perhaps PATH in CONFIG.SYS, or perhaps of a
sort that could be cured by Kelder's Association
Editor.

> I do use Mozilla 1.75. which is in my G partition.

> I uninstalled Flash 5 and reinstalled it carefully
> deleting the default
> ns4.61 plugin directory and adding the two Mozilla
> directories where I
> have plugins (G:\mozilla\mozilla\plugins and
> G:\mozilla\mozilla\mozilla\plugins. npnswf2.dll is
> in both directories;
> nsIFlash.xpt is mozilla\mozilla\components.

Offhand, if memory serves, that does not sound like
the Flash install procedure we are supposed to follow,
where you run one self-extracting file from a
specified location, and it creates an Innotek-style
WIN "wrapper" tree structure below this point.

> EZirc also calls ns4.61 to display the file with all
> the commands, etc. I
> checked the EZirc ini file and both of the
> installation command files and
> found no reference to ns4.61.

I don't use EZirc, and can't comment on that.

> Is Flash 5 obsolete?

Yes & No. Depends on the generation of the Flash
content you happen to encounter. Older Flash stuff
may still work, the more recent issue Flash stuff
won't.

> I know Ray Davison has Flash 7

As do many of us. The Flash7a non-release for OS/2
(quashed for licensing reasons) still managed to
escape into the wild quite some time ago, and you can
find it for d/l with some persistent searching. Try
Google, and lean towards any hits you may find in
Europe, .RU, or Ukraine, for example. If you still
can't find it, get back to me. (Can't do much about
this at the moment, as I'm still on the road.) I'm
told that once the Innotek'd Flash-7 has successfully
been installed, the *current* WIN Flash .dll can be
substituted for it, and it should work. Haven't tried
this yet myself.

> and I think I have seen reference to Flash 9.

That would be news to me, but I've been out of
circulation for awhile lately . . . . ;-)
The more rigorous test for current Flash congtent that
I'm aware of is the official site for the recent
"Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy" movie. If you can
play the stuff there, you should be in fine shape.

Jordan

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