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Date:	Wed, 22 Jun 2005 21:18:11 PDT7
From:	"Bob" <2lvvuss02@sneakemail.com >
Reply-To:	scoug-help@scoug.com
To:	scoug-help@scoug.com
Subject:	SCOUG-Help: Tom Brown email - VyperHelp

** Reply to message from "Steven Levine steve53@earthlink.net" on Wed, 22 Jun
2005 19:52:31 PDT7

> >Verizon will not remove the IP from the DUL because they are they ones
> >that put those IPs there in the first place.
>
> Are you sure about this? Is this Verizon's policy?

No, because I have never asked them. I do know that many ISPs do list all of
their dial-up-lines and DSL-lines in the DUL database. So if Peter's IP is
listed then I assume that all of Verizon's dial up IPs are listed.

> It is definitely not Earthlink's policy.

Not all ISPs do this. As far as I am concerned Earthlink has other spam
problems besides the DUL problem and should probably list their dial ups in the
DUL database to help reduce spam (a lot of spam comes from Earthlink dial up
lines).

> >There is a reason for the
> >DUL list because those IPs should never be sending email directly to MX
> >(which is what Peter is doing).
>
> We will probably have to agree to disgree about this.

If people played by the rules sending direct to MX would not be a problem but
we are talking about the real world.

Why should any dial up run a email server and send directly to MX? Anyone
running an email server on a dial up line should be sending all of their email
through their ISP which will forward it and no one will have problems. That
way valid email will not be blocked and all of the ISPs that block DUL to stop
spam from all those compromized computers will not see the spam (which is why
the DUL block list was created for to begin with).

--
Robert Blair

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