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Date:	Fri, 6 May 2005 11:10:47 PDT7
From:	"Bob" <2lvvuss02@sneakemail.com >
Reply-To:	scoug-help@scoug.com
To:	scoug-help@scoug.com
Subject:	SCOUG-Help: E-mail bounce mystery

** Reply to message from "Mark Abramowitzmarka@relaypoint.net" on Fri, 6 May
2005 05:58:08 PDT7

> Below are the headers of one of the bounces that Peter received. My ISP
> tells me it's not them,

Were those headers from one email? They don't look right to me but the headers
we really need to see are the ones in the original message which is included.

> but my mail is a bit more complicated than many.
> I have e-mail to my enviropolicy.com domain automatically go from Go Daddy
> (which has my mailboxes) to my ISP, which automatically sends everything
> addressed to enviropolicy.com to my marka@relaypoint.net mailbox.

Not so different than some of what I do.

>
> ****
>
> Received: from mail.zoneedit.com ([172.18.12.133])
> by vms051.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2 HotFix 0.04
> (built Dec 24 2004)) with ESMTP id
> <0IET008NE3705XE0@vms051.mailsrvcs.net> for
> res030cs@verizon.net; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 18:42:37 -0500 (CDT)
> Received: from mail.zoneedit.com (209.152.174.160)
> by sv9pub.verizon.net (MailPass SMTP server v1.2.0 - 013105113116JY+PrW)
> with ESMTP id <1-5890-97-5890-19720-1-1113262956> for
> vms051pub.verizon.net;
> Mon, 11 Apr 2005 18:42:37 -0500
> Received: from localhost.vz.dsl.genuity.net
> (lsanca1-ar8-4-60-066-036.lsanca1.dsl-verizon.net [4.60.66.36])
> by mail.zoneedit.com (Postfix) with SMTP id BC9CB3EC05 for
> ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 19:42:34 -0400 (EDT)
> Received: from localhost by localhost.vz.dsl.genuity.net
> (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 2.02/2.0) id QAB005.81; Mon,
> 11 Apr 2005 16:42:16 -0700
> Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 16:42:16 -0700
> From: Mail Delivery Subsystem
>
> Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
> To:
> Message-id: <200504112342.QAB005.81@localhost.vz.dsl.genuity.net>
> Auto-submitted: auto-generated (failure)
>
> The original message was received at Mon, 11 Apr 2005 16:42:12 -0700
>
> ----- The following addresses had delivery problems -----
> (unrecoverable error)
>
> ----- Transcript of session follows -----
> .. while talking to smtp.secureserver.net.:
> >>> RCPT To:
>
> <<< 553 4.60.66.* rejected due to spam, contact 480-505-8877 (Attack
> detected from pool 4.60.66.8) 550 ... User unknown

This says that "enviropolicy.com" does not have a user "marka". Since you did
not tell us what the email addresses are for each hop on its way to it final
destination I don't know if this is a correct error message or not. If marka
is a valid email address on enviropolicy.com then there may have been a
temporary error.

> ----- Original message follows -----
> Received: from localhost by localhost.vz.dsl.genuity.net (IBM OS/2
> SENDMAIL VERSION 2.02/2.0) id QAA005.81; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 16:42:12 -0700
> Message-ID: <425B0B4B.5C0F@peterskye.com>
> Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 16:42:03 -0700
> From: Peter Skye
> X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (OS/2; I)
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> To: Mark Abramowitz
> Subject: Re: topic for SCOUG meeting ?
> References: <200504110713593.SM01036@MAIN>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

It looks like Peter is using OS/2 sendmail. This will send email from Peter's
machine directly to another systems email server (direct to MX) without going
through GENUITY's email server. Some email servers will not receive email from
a dial-up line, GENUITY considers these DSL connections the equivalent of a
dial-up.

In this case it is hard to tell if that is the problem or the error message is
incorrect and the message was really dropped because the email is coming from a
dial-up connection. The message seems a little confusing.

> <<< 553 4.60.66.* rejected due to spam, contact 480-505-8877 (Attack
> detected from pool 4.60.66.8)

Seems to say that any address 4.60.66.* are a spam source.

> 550 ... User unknown

But this say the user is unknown on this email server.

Did you call 480-505-8877?

--
Robert Blair

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