said: 
>Yes, although I believe (but can't prove yet) that it will need to be 
>renamed before it is deleted. 
Yes, I already have working code that does this.  Talk is cheap.  I prefer 
to have working tools.  You will probably get to be the test dummy once 
I'm reasonably sure it is bullet proof. 
>I reported what I perceived as unexpected behavior by the 
>program - I wouldn't have intended for it to work that way if it were my 
>program. 
I agree, although I would like to belive if fm/2 was not displaying file 
as users expected, I would have already heard about it.  We shall see what 
comes of this. 
>I'm not sure 
>what dfsee does when deleting a file but I believe that if it does no 
>more than a conventional file delete, then it is insufficient. 
Since it is not insufficient, it obviously does more.  For example, it can 
delete EA DATA. SF, which most folks find difficult or impossible when 
booted the eCS/OS2. 
>In any 
>case, I don't believe simple file delete is sufficient for either file.  
>For those not familiar, IIRC, those are not spaces in the file names but 
>an non-printing ASCII character whose number I can't recall. 
YANRCC 
DFSee  OS/2  7.15 : Executing: h 1fa                                           
 Start sector  LSN : 0x000001FA      Size to display : 256 bytes                
                                                                                -00000-  
45 41 20 44 41 54 41 20  20 53 46 27 00 00 00 00 [EA DATA  SF'....]    
-00010-  00 00 00 00 00 00 44 68  5f 27 ca 01 00 30 07 00 
[......Dh_'...0..]    
Try 
  ren "WP ROOT. SF" WPXROOT.XSF 
and see what happens. 
>You can 
>still delete the WPS file with a "DEL WP?ROOT.?SF" command if you've 
>remove the attributes but DEL "WP ROOT. SF" will not work if you've used 
>spaces in the file name. 
Depends on the command shell.  Some are more brain dead than others.  You 
need one that will actually understand the quotes or you need to use the 
wildcards. 
>Just trying to set the stage that deleting the EA DATA. SF file is not as 
>simple as removing offending attributes from the file and deleting it. 
Well it is unless you are booted to eCS/OS2. 
>> From where?  Fm/2 or the Desktop? 
>From the desktop. 
Oh well. 
>I don't believe I said you did. :-).  Just in case someone thought that 
>using a file manager like FM/2 prevented both file's creation, it's not 
>true. 
It may be true, but we need to test it.  Fm/2 has a feature known as drive 
flags that can suppress the creation of EAs on a drive.  This may have the 
side effect of bypassing the creation of EA DATA. SF.  We can test this on 
Saturday, maybe. 
>attrib -r -s -h x:\WP?ROOT.?SF 
>del x:\WP?ROOT.?SF 
You need to rename WP ROOT. SF and then delete it, just like you stated 
above. 
>I did a help for at a command line and didn't see the /r CL argument.  
Recall that I said you need to run the script under 4os2.  It's the least 
brain-dead of the command shells that trace their history to command.com. 
>By the way, what is the upshot of deleting EA DATA. SF when files with 
>EAs have been placed on the drive. 
In our case, there's no upshot.  We are going to delete the EAs before 
deleting EA DATA. SF. 
>Is there any other risk other than 
>the loss of all EAs on that volume? 
Let's just say, I recommend you don't do that. 
>Thanks.  As I mentioned in my response to Tom, I'll be in Dallas starting 
>Sunday so I'll probably get to it next week. 
Have fun. 
Steven 
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