on Mon, 23 Jul 2007
17:15:01 -0700
> > Time Warner may be filtering anyway. What do you
> > think?
>
> My only experience with them is as a provider of Cable
> TV service, so I can't really say.
>
> I'm in a somewhat different category, and not just
> because it's DSL and a different provider: for the
> last couple years, I've handled most of my mail from
> dedicated Webmail gateways (browser based, online),
> specific to each mail account. This is evidently
> quite different that having it come directly into your
> email client.
Some people like webmail, I do not. When I travel I take my laptop and
download my email. Staying online the entire time you read and respond to
email gets very expensive in Europe and even in some places in the US. I
download my email disconnect then read and respond to the emails and connect to
send any responses, each connect only takes a minute or two.
> On the one hand, I can see extensive attachment
> filtering: all of that malware payload crap (unless it
> is embedded within the body of the message) has been
> stripped out by the time I see it. I sometimes open
> those attachments from eCS, if I happen to be curious,
> because I know that even if there was something bad
> there, it couldn't affect me. But instead, I'll find
> a message that the attachment was removed by
> EarthLink, or whomever.
>
> On the other hand, I see very little in the way of
> spam filtering . . . because I get about a hundred or
> so of them every day. Sometimes more. (That covers 3
> principal mail accounts.) The best the Webmail
> Gateways can do is to dump a large majority of the
> suspect items into a "Bulk" (probable unwanted mail)
> Folder. Curiously, a lot of the SCOUG-headered mail
> gets diverted into that folder -- as false positives.
> I wrote to the ISP Tech Support inquiring as to the
> implementation of their filtering rules, and how I
> might modify them to accept the SCOUG mail into the
> Inbox, but they sent me back a non-responsive form
> letter.
As long as they keep it where you can check it and not delete or reject it
there is not too much of a problem. The problem I have is when they delete it
or reject it, then I do not see any problem.
> I see no sign that the Bayesian thingie in SeaMonkey
> ever comes into play, when using the Webmail option.
SeaMonkey never sees the data as email only as a web site.
> Colin wrote:
>
> > spam e-mails; some in Cyrillic, some in Asian
> > fonts,
>
> Yeah, I get a lot of that too. IDIOTS ! Can the
> senders actually expect these to get anything other
> than an instant Kill over here, where most of the
> recipients do not read those languages ?
They need to get their email in front of as many eyeballs as possible because
the rate of responses is so low. So they spam as many people as possible.
They have no way of checking what language you use and they really don't care,
just spam as many people as possible.
> > and some where the "message",usually about Viagra, >
> is hidden in a picture.
> Uh-huh. And a very common one now is .PDFs,
Spammer's trying to bypass filtering that is looking for certain words in the
message body, it is more difficult to scan an image.
> or
> supposed e-cards from some long lost friend or
> relative, which are actually attempts to plant some
> spyware or "backdoor" control on (Windoze) systems,
> perhaps by directing you to a rogue website, or having
> the careless or the gullible click on something.
Trying to replace all of the compromised computers that are being cleaned up.
Trouble is that the infections happen at a much higher rate than the clean up.
--
Robert Blair
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