said: 
>In <20070908214712-33304-7@scoug.com>, on 09/08/07 
>   at 09:47 PM, jack.huffman@worldnet.att.net said: 
>Hi, 
>Just to add few comments to the other good info you have been given by 
>the others... 
>>I backed up with RSJ 5.07 and Ba2KWS 4.0 or 4.10 and then RSJ said the CD 
>>was sealed.  I tried a new CD and RSJ said it was unusable because it had 
>>been formatted by a third party. 
>There's something wrong with what you are doing.  DId these procedures 
>ever work?  If so, how long have you using these procedures?  What did 
>you change recently that might have caused the bustage? 
The procedures I followed ahave worked for years and worked on one backup 
CD I made on 9/8. RSJ status showed three  files (665+kb), 1 directory 
(2kb) and miscellaneous (54+ kb) and zero space available and the comment 
CD formatted by 3rd party-writing disabled.  RSJ drive is Z in Xtree Bold.  
When I tried to view the three  files in Ztree Bold, the first two files 
opened.  The third file would not open and showed "Error 00".  ( So 
something didn't work) 
After some failures on 9/8, I made two successful backups (I to Z and JK 
drives to Z).  Since then I have been unable to backup successfully as the 
logs show.  I can't find the CD with these backups; guess I threw it away 
with some others that were no good last Thursday. 
I bought a spindle of 50 Maxell 700mb, 48X CD's.  A random sample of 3 
from the first 10 showed 0 space available.  Before and after I attach it, 
RSJ says the CD-R is occupied by 0 files, 1 directory (2Kb) but also says 
the entire disk is occupied by "Other" files.  RSJ says writing is 
disabled because the CD was formatted by 3rd party software.  When I 
finalize, with or without session, RSJ opens the Plextor PX=24/10/40A, 
with or without session, the CD is ejected almost immediately in contrast 
to the usual minute or so that RSJ takes to close a successful backup 
session.  For the same CD, Ztree says "Sector not found". 
The BA2KWS messages.log for all of my backup attempts to date shows: 
;----------------------------------------------------------------------- 
; 
08-SEP-07 16:05:30 [id=8000] Backup for set 'CtoZ' started. 
08-SEP-07 16:05:38 [id=0200] [rc1=fffd rc2=0000] [OS/2 API error code = 15 
(x000f)] An unexpected device error has occurred.  Please collect all 
relevant information and contact technical support for further assistance. 
 08-SEP-07 16:05:52 [id=8003] Total active time for operation  : 0:00. 
08-SEP-07 16:05:52 [id=8004] Total idle time for operation    : 0:23. 
08-SEP-07 16:05:52 [id=8005] Total elapsed time for operation : 0:23. 
08-SEP-07 16:05:52 [id=8007] Processed 0.0 MB in 0 files. 08-SEP-07 
16:05:52 [id=8400] Backup aborted. 
;----------------------------------------------------------------------- 
; 
08-SEP-07 16:07:38 [id=8000] Backup for set 'CtoZ' started. 
08-SEP-07 16:13:32 [id=8404] Overall compression : 1.4:1. 
08-SEP-07 16:13:32 [id=8003] Total active time for operation  : 4:18. 
08-SEP-07 16:13:32 [id=8004] Total idle time for operation    : 1:35. 
08-SEP-07 16:13:32 [id=8005] Total elapsed time for operation : 5:53. 
08-SEP-07 16:13:32 [id=8007] Processed 228.3 MB in 5878 files. 08-SEP-07 
16:13:32 [id=8006] Average throughput : 53.1 MB/min. 08-SEP-07 16:13:32 
[id=8401] Backup completed normally. 
;----------------------------------------------------------------------- 
; 
08-SEP-07 16:14:03 [id=8000] Backup for set 'DEF toZ' started. 08-SEP-07 
16:15:37 [id=8404] Overall compression : 2.1:1. 
08-SEP-07 16:15:37 [id=8003] Total active time for operation  : 0:57. 
08-SEP-07 16:15:37 [id=8004] Total idle time for operation    : 0:37. 
08-SEP-07 16:15:37 [id=8005] Total elapsed time for operation : 1:34. 
08-SEP-07 16:15:37 [id=8007] Processed 62.5 MB in 1681 files. 08-SEP-07 
16:15:37 [id=8006] Average throughput : 65.8 MB/min. 08-SEP-07 16:15:37 
[id=8401] Backup completed normally. 
;----------------------------------------------------------------------- 
; 
08-SEP-07 16:17:21 [id=8000] Backup for set 'IJKBKup416' started. 
08-SEP-07 16:25:38 [id=8404] Overall compression : 1.1:1. 08-SEP-07 
16:25:38 [id=8003] Total active time for operation  : 8:04. 08-SEP-07 
16:25:38 [id=8004] Total idle time for operation    : 0:13. 08-SEP-07 
16:25:38 [id=8005] Total elapsed time for operation : 8:17. 08-SEP-07 
16:25:38 [id=8007] Processed 1103.3 MB in 3901 files. 08-SEP-07 16:25:38 
[id=8006] Average throughput : 136.8 MB/min. 08-SEP-07 16:25:38 [id=8401] 
Backup completed normally. 
;----------------------------------------------------------------------- 
; 
08-SEP-07 16:31:48 [id=8000] Backup for set 'IJK to Z 07' started. 
08-SEP-07 16:31:55 [id=0202] [rc1=000a rc2=0000] [OS/2 API error code = 5 
(x0005)] The media in the device is write protected.  Remove write 
protection on the media and retry the operation.  08-SEP-07 16:32:06 
[id=8003] Total active time for operation  : 0:00. 08-SEP-07 16:32:06 
[id=8004] Total idle time for operation    : 0:18. 08-SEP-07 16:32:06 
[id=8005] Total elapsed time for operation : 0:18. 08-SEP-07 16:32:06 
[id=8007] Processed 0.0 MB in 0 files. 08-SEP-07 16:32:06 [id=8400] Backup 
aborted. 
;----------------------------------------------------------------------- 
; 
08-SEP-07 16:34:04 [id=8000] Backup for set 'IJK to Z 07' started. 
08-SEP-07 16:34:08 [id=0202] [rc1=000a rc2=0000] [OS/2 API error code = 5 
(x0005)] The media in the device is write protected.  Remove write 
protection on the media and retry the operation.  08-SEP-07 16:34:38 
[id=8003] Total active time for operation  : 0:00. 08-SEP-07 16:34:38 
[id=8004] Total idle time for operation    : 0:34. 08-SEP-07 16:34:38 
[id=8005] Total elapsed time for operation : 0:34. 08-SEP-07 16:34:38 
[id=8007] Processed 0.0 MB in 0 files. 08-SEP-07 16:34:38 [id=8400] Backup 
aborted. 
;----------------------------------------------------------------------- 
; 
08-SEP-07 16:37:25 [id=8000] Backup for set 'IJK to Z 07' started. 
08-SEP-07 16:37:28 [id=0202] [rc1=000a rc2=0000] [OS/2 API error code = 5 
(x0005)] The media in the device is write protected.  Remove write 
protection on the media and retry the operation.  08-SEP-07 16:37:38 
[id=8003] Total active time for operation  : 0:00. 08-SEP-07 16:37:38 
[id=8004] Total idle time for operation    : 0:13. 08-SEP-07 16:37:38 
[id=8005] Total elapsed time for operation : 0:13. 08-SEP-07 16:37:38 
[id=8007] Processed 0.0 MB in 0 files. 08-SEP-07 16:37:38 [id=8400] Backup 
aborted. 
;----------------------------------------------------------------------- 
; 
08-SEP-07 16:41:36 [id=8000] Backup for set 'ItoZ' started. 
08-SEP-07 16:42:21 [id=8404] Overall compression : 1.1:1. 
08-SEP-07 16:42:21 [id=8003] Total active time for operation  : 0:12. 
08-SEP-07 16:42:21 [id=8004] Total idle time for operation    : 0:33. 
08-SEP-07 16:42:21 [id=8005] Total elapsed time for operation : 0:45. 
08-SEP-07 16:42:21 [id=8007] Processed 11.9 MB in 200 files. 08-SEP-07 
16:42:21 [id=8006] Average throughput : 59.4 MB/min. 08-SEP-07 16:42:21 
[id=8401] Backup completed normally. 
;----------------------------------------------------------------------- 
; 
08-SEP-07 16:42:49 [id=8000] Backup for set 'JKdrives' started. 08-SEP-07 
16:51:46 [id=8404] Overall compression : 1.1:1. 
08-SEP-07 16:51:46 [id=8003] Total active time for operation  : 6:47. 
08-SEP-07 16:51:46 [id=8004] Total idle time for operation    : 2:10. 
08-SEP-07 16:51:46 [id=8005] Total elapsed time for operation : 8:57. 
08-SEP-07 16:51:46 [id=8007] Processed 1091.5 MB in 3701 files. 08-SEP-07 
16:51:46 [id=8006] Average throughput : 160.9 MB/min. 08-SEP-07 16:51:46 
[id=8401] Backup completed normally. 
;----------------------------------------------------------------------- 
; 
08-SEP-07 17:08:11 [id=8000] Backup for set 'Jless BABACKUP toZ' started. 
08-SEP-07 17:20:03 [id=8003] Total active time for operation  : 10:48. 
08-SEP-07 17:20:03 [id=8004] Total idle time for operation    : 1:04. 
08-SEP-07 17:20:03 [id=8005] Total elapsed time for operation : 11:52. 
08-SEP-07 17:20:03 [id=8007] Processed 505.1 MB in 2270 files. 08-SEP-07 
17:20:03 [id=8006] Average throughput : 46.8 MB/min. 08-SEP-07 17:20:03 
[id=8400] Backup aborted. 
BA2KWF mssage.log for subsequent backup attempts is: 
;----------------------------------------------------------------------- 
; 
08-SEP-07 18:04:32 [id=8000] Backup for set 'IJK9807' started. 08-SEP-07 
18:04:36 [id=0200] [rc1=000d rc2=0000] [OS/2 API error code = 4 (x0004)] 
An unexpected device error has occurred.  Please collect all relevant 
information and contact technical support for further assistance.  
08-SEP-07 18:04:41 [id=8003] Total active time for operation  : 0:00. 
08-SEP-07 18:04:41 [id=8004] Total idle time for operation    : 0:10. 
08-SEP-07 18:04:41 [id=8005] Total elapsed time for operation : 0:10. 
08-SEP-07 18:04:41 [id=8007] Processed 0.0 MB in 0 files. 08-SEP-07 
18:04:41 [id=8400] Backup aborted. 
;----------------------------------------------------------------------- 
; 
08-SEP-07 21:55:20 [id=8000] Backup for set 'G lESS ICE OO BA2KWS CDWF' 
started. 08-SEP-07 21:55:26 [id=0202] [rc1=000a rc2=0000] [OS/2 API error 
code = 5 (x0005)] The media in the device is write protected.  Remove 
write protection on the media and retry the operation.  08-SEP-07 21:56:10 
[id=0202] [rc1=000a rc2=0000] [OS/2 API error code = 5 (x0005)] The media 
in the device is write protected.  Remove write protection on the media 
and retry the operation.  08-SEP-07 21:56:12 [id=8003] Total active time 
for operation  : 0:00. 08-SEP-07 21:56:12 [id=8004] Total idle time for 
operation    : 0:53. 08-SEP-07 21:56:12 [id=8005] Total elapsed time for 
operation : 0:53. 08-SEP-07 21:56:12 [id=8007] Processed 0.0 MB in 0 
files. 08-SEP-07 21:56:12 [id=8400] Backup aborted. 
;----------------------------------------------------------------------- 
; 
08-SEP-07 22:30:52 [id=8000] Backup for set 'G lESS ICE OO BA2KWS CDWF' 
started. 08-SEP-07 22:31:00 [id=0202] [rc1=000a rc2=0000] [OS/2 API error 
code = 5 (x0005)] The media in the device is write protected.  Remove 
write protection on the media and retry the operation.  08-SEP-07 22:31:47 
[id=8003] Total active time for operation  : 0:00. 08-SEP-07 22:31:47 
[id=8004] Total idle time for operation    : 0:55. 08-SEP-07 22:31:47 
[id=8005] Total elapsed time for operation : 0:55. 08-SEP-07 22:31:47 
[id=8007] Processed 0.0 MB in 0 files. 08-SEP-07 22:31:47 [id=8400] Backup 
aborted. 
;----------------------------------------------------------------------- 
; 
08-SEP-07 22:58:33 [id=8000] Backup for set 'G lESS ICE OO BA2KWS CDWF' 
started. 08-SEP-07 22:58:36 [id=0200] [rc1=0002 rc2=0000] [OS/2 API error 
code = 3 (x0003)] An unexpected device error has occurred.  Please collect 
all relevant information and contact technical support for further 
assistance.  08-SEP-07 22:59:05 [id=8003] Total active time for operation  
: 0:00. 08-SEP-07 22:59:05 [id=8004] Total idle time for operation    : 
0:32. 08-SEP-07 22:59:05 [id=8005] Total elapsed time for operation : 
0:32. 08-SEP-07 22:59:05 [id=8007] Processed 0.0 MB in 0 files. 
08-SEP-07 22:59:05 [id=8400] Backup aborted. 
;----------------------------------------------------------------------- 
; 
08-SEP-07 23:50:46 [id=8000] Backup for set 'G lESS ICE OO BA2KWS CDWF' 
started. 08-SEP-07 23:50:50 [id=0202] [rc1=000a rc2=0000] [OS/2 API error 
code = 5 (x0005)] The media in the device is write protected.  Remove 
write protection on the media and retry the operation.  08-SEP-07 23:50:58 
[id=8003] Total active time for operation  : 0:00. 08-SEP-07 23:50:58 
[id=8004] Total idle time for operation    : 0:13. 08-SEP-07 23:50:58 
[id=8005] Total elapsed time for operation : 0:13. 08-SEP-07 23:50:58 
[id=8007] Processed 0.0 MB in 0 files. 08-SEP-07 23:50:58 [id=8400] Backup 
aborted. 
;----------------------------------------------------------------------- 
; 
11-SEP-07 21:49:25 [id=8000] Backup for set 'G lESS ICE OO BA2KWS CDWF' 
started. 11-SEP-07 21:49:31 [id=0202] [rc1=000a rc2=0000] [OS/2 API error 
code = 5 (x0005)] The media in the device is write protected.  Remove 
write protection on the media and retry the operation.  11-SEP-07 21:49:43 
[id=8003] Total active time for operation  : 0:00. 11-SEP-07 21:49:43 
[id=8004] Total idle time for operation    : 0:20. 11-SEP-07 21:49:43 
[id=8005] Total elapsed time for operation : 0:20. 11-SEP-07 21:49:43 
[id=8007] Processed 0.0 MB in 0 files. 11-SEP-07 21:49:43 [id=8400] Backup 
aborted. 
;----------------------------------------------------------------------- 
; 
11-SEP-07 21:52:28 [id=8000] Backup for set 'G lESS ICE OO BA2KWS CDWF' 
started. 11-SEP-07 21:52:34 [id=0202] [rc1=000a rc2=0000] [OS/2 API error 
code = 5 (x0005)] The media in the device is write protected.  Remove 
write protection on the media and retry the operation.  11-SEP-07 21:53:04 
[id=8003] Total active time for operation  : 0:00. 11-SEP-07 21:53:04 
[id=8004] Total idle time for operation    : 0:36. 11-SEP-07 21:53:04 
[id=8005] Total elapsed time for operation : 0:36. 11-SEP-07 21:53:04 
[id=8007] Processed 0.0 MB in 0 files. 11-SEP-07 21:53:04 [id=8400] Backup 
aborted. 
;----------------------------------------------------------------------- 
; 
11-SEP-07 22:07:22 [id=8000] Backup for set 'G lESS ICE OO BA2KWS CDWF' 
started. 11-SEP-07 22:07:26 [id=0202] [rc1=000a rc2=0000] [OS/2 API error 
code = 5 (x0005)] The media in the device is write protected.  Remove 
write protection on the media and retry the operation.  11-SEP-07 22:07:56 
[id=8003] Total active time for operation  : 0:00. 11-SEP-07 22:07:56 
[id=8004] Total idle time for operation    : 0:33. 11-SEP-07 22:07:56 
[id=8005] Total elapsed time for operation : 0:33. 11-SEP-07 22:07:56 
[id=8007] Processed 0.0 MB in 0 files. 11-SEP-07 22:07:56 [id=8400] Backup 
aborted. 
;----------------------------------------------------------------------- 
; 
11-SEP-07 22:10:48 [id=8000] Backup for set 'Cdriveonly' started. 
11-SEP-07 22:10:57 [id=0200] [rc1=0002 rc2=0000] [OS/2 API error code = 3 
(x0003)] An unexpected device error has occurred.  Please collect all 
relevant information and contact technical support for further assistance. 
 11-SEP-07 22:11:09 [id=8003] Total active time for operation  : 0:00. 
11-SEP-07 22:11:09 [id=8004] Total idle time for operation    : 0:22. 
11-SEP-07 22:11:09 [id=8005] Total elapsed time for operation : 0:22. 
11-SEP-07 22:11:09 [id=8007] Processed 0.0 MB in 0 files. 11-SEP-07 
22:11:09 [id=8400] Backup aborted. 
;----------------------------------------------------------------------- 
; 
11-SEP-07 22:12:12 [id=8000] Backup for set 'Cdriveonly' started. 
11-SEP-07 22:12:21 [id=0200] [rc1=0002 rc2=0000] [OS/2 API error code = 3 
(x0003)] An unexpected device error has occurred.  Please collect all 
relevant information and contact technical support for further assistance. 
 11-SEP-07 22:12:51 [id=8003] Total active time for operation  : 0:00. 
11-SEP-07 22:12:51 [id=8004] Total idle time for operation    : 0:39. 
11-SEP-07 22:12:51 [id=8005] Total elapsed time for operation : 0:39. 
11-SEP-07 22:12:51 [id=8007] Processed 0.0 MB in 0 files. 11-SEP-07 
22:12:51 [id=8400] Backup aborted. 
;----------------------------------------------------------------------- 
; 
11-SEP-07 22:13:25 [id=8000] Backup for set 'Cdriveonly' started. 
11-SEP-07 22:13:33 [id=0200] [rc1=0002 rc2=0000] [OS/2 API error code = 3 
(x0003)] An unexpected device error has occurred.  Please collect all 
relevant information and contact technical support for further assistance. 
 11-SEP-07 22:13:48 [id=8003] Total active time for operation  : 0:00. 
11-SEP-07 22:13:48 [id=8004] Total idle time for operation    : 0:23. 
11-SEP-07 22:13:48 [id=8005] Total elapsed time for operation : 0:23. 
11-SEP-07 22:13:48 [id=8007] Processed 0.0 MB in 0 files. 11-SEP-07 
22:13:48 [id=8400] Backup aborted. 
I hope you can tell me what is wrong from this.  If something isn't clear, 
let me know, 
>If you are using CD-R media, there's no such thing as formatting.  What 
>there is is finalizing, but that's done after the CD is written.  Some 
>versions of RSJ call this sealing. 
>>BA2KWS has an erase command, but I can't get the prompt in an OS/2 window 
>>to ahange from C:\ to G:\ wahere BA2Kws resides. 
>What erase command?  There's nothing to erase with CD-R media. 
>>What am I doing wrong? 
>First you are not being the least bit clear about what is failing.  
>Pretend that you are trying fix this problem for someone else and provide 
>the same information that know you would ask for. 
>>Is BA2Kws an orphan? 
>It's been unsupported for something like 4 years.  The developers have 
>been gone for at least a couple of years.  Intradyn purchased the rights 
>to the software, but they are probably just using the code in their other 
>products. 
>>I couldn't find anybody who offered it when I did a 
>>Google search. 
>You won't, unless you are looking for used copies. 
>Steven 
Jack 
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