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Date:	Fri, 24 Oct 2008 09:59:31 -0700
From:	J R FOX <jr_fox@pacbell.net >
Reply-To:	scoug-help@scoug.com
To:	scoug-help@scoug.com
Subject:	SCOUG-Help: YMMV {was: Some eBay listings don't scroll properly}

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> > Yes, but Win CHKDSK can run at bootup, against
> something it does not
> > understand or does not like. In that event, you'd
> better be paying
> > attention, and be quick on the trigger.

--- On Fri, 10/24/08, Ray Davison wrote:

> My primary OS/2 is still
> W4 on FAT16.
> It uses FAT16, FAT32, HPFS, JFS and EXT2. Win has never
> bothered it.
> Most of my machines have eCS on HPFS. Win has not bothered
> them either,
> or the HPFS storage partitions.

This is contrary to my experience. But I've avoided serious problems by keeping those partitions off the Win radar.

> And Win and eCS can now be
> used to
> maintain each other. Heck, I might even eliminate the
> extra OS/2
> partitions some day. That thought is scary.

I would never trust Pinball.Sys to make this two-way. Win can't and won't see or write to a partition that belongs to eCS on one of my systems. With a minor exception of those EA and WP files, OS/2 is pretty well behaved, though, so I don't have a problem letting it have access to any FAT-32 partition that is used by Win. I don't have much confidence in the half-baked NTFS driver for eCS.

> Define "for all practical purposes". I have to
> believe that something
> is either required or not. And if it is, why?

They suggest OO 2.x would be dog slow (if your dog happens to be a bulldog or a dachshunt) if you put the data on something other than JFS.

> What are you using for maintenance and recovery of FAT32.
> Like when OS/2 chkdsk says run scandisk.

Good question. I'll let you know when I need to recover one.

> One time letting W2K try to recover a FAT32 curred me of
> that fantasy.

This hasn't really been an issue here, either.

> > Don't know what to tell you, Ray. I push what I
> run fairly hard --
> > probably not by Steven's terms, but _still_
> relative to the "average"
> > user. I certainly have my problems, but what you
> refer to ain't
> > among 'em.

> So, you do a power-down and every partition comes backs
> clean, right?

When you say "power-down", I take it you don't mean just pulling the plug, but an orderly shut-down ? In that case, 'Yes.'

> JFS. It seems to work OK except
> for the crash thing.

Do you know about / have / ever use that JRESCUE (or whatever it's called) utility ? It would bother me if that is needed a lot, in running JFS, but at the very least I'd like to know that it works and works well.

> Do I understand you have a lot of media files?

Yah, you betcha.

> I suggest you don't try
> to push FAT32 or HPFS much past 50G. The magic number may
> be 64G, I
> have played with it but I don't have a real number.
> That is why I went
> to JFS and EXT2.

I have a few HDDs devoted to media storage. They use FAT-32 partitions up to at least 200G. (We've discussed this before.) No problems with this, so far. But I just add or remove or xfer stuff on them -- nothing fancy. If I'm doing something (video-app-wise) to / with one of those files, it is happening elsewhere, on a work drive.

So, I guess we do have some major YMMV going on here.

Jordan

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