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Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 13:03:43 PDT
From: <leganii@surfree.com >
Reply-To: scoug-programming@scoug.com
To: scoug-programming@scoug.com
Subject: SCOUG-Programming: SNMP followup

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Steven has already answered you some, so here are my thoughts.

On Wed, 25 April 2001, Peter Skye wrote:

> To: scoug-programming@scoug.com
> Delivered-To: surfree.com%leganii@surfree.com
> Subject: SCOUG-Programming:
> SNMP followup
> From: Peter Skye
> Return-Path:
> Mime-Version: 1.0
> Reply-To: scoug-programming@scoug.com
> Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 03:59:40 PDT
>
> dallas_kincyb wrote:
> >
> > 4) Most of the Agents, running in monitored
> > devices are either built into the firmware or
> > are daemons/servers that have to be fired up.
>
> Hi Dallas,
>
> 1. Is SNMP for managing Network hardware, or is it for managing and
> monitoring hardware over a network? The first is a subset of the
> second.
>
> ---- RFC 1157 says SNMP is for network node management but it was
> written 11 years ago.
>
> ---- OS/2's Help says:
>
> Simple Network Management Protocol.
> SNMP provides a way to manage the clients,
> servers, gateways, and routers in a network.
>
> but doesn't say if the more general "manage and monitor hardware
> over a network" is also a typical use of SNMP.

It is a network protocol, so should be over some network.
It could be loopback interface, I suppose it could be over a
different network than what is being managed ('out-of-band').

>
> 2. The url you gave for MRTG examples -- http://mrtg.xidus.net/ --
> reports more than basic hardware stats:
>
> ---- Is the raw data used to create these graphs accumulated by the
> devices themselves (for example, is DNS/hr accumulated by the DNS server
> or is it instead a measurement of port access summarized by a router, or
> what)?

I don't know in this specific case, in theory it could be either.
All that is required is that the DNS server/router respond to
SNMP commands.
There are a various helper programs for MRTG available.

>
> ---- May a network printer report its usage and status, or is this
> considered outside the realm of SNMP's purpose?

If there is an OID for it in the MIBs, it is open for 'management'.
For basic SNMP, it reports in response to commands, unless a trap
is triggered.
BSD has OIDs for kernel configuration, but I'm unsure if
these are used by SNMP, but if so, then their sysctl
command for changing kernel configuration on the fly
is an extreme example.

>
> ---- The MRTG example reports include one which apparently is reporting
> server memory usage. What do you run on an OS/2 machine to get this
> reporting capability?
>

SL answered this. there may be an auxiliary script that can be
adapted to help on this.

> 3. What is your recommendation for a basic SNMP installation on a
> network consisting of OS/2 machines, a couple of firewalls and some
> printers?
>
> Thanks,
>
> - Peter
>
>

If you want to plot stuff, MRTG could hardly be a mistake.
I don't have a home network yet, so I can't speak on particular
experience, but MRTG has been ported to OS/2, and unless
this version is drasticly different from others, it
requires Simon Leinen's Perl SNMP package, which will
also provide configuring capabilities.
The O'Reilly 'gopher' book (Perl for System Administrators)
recommends using the UCD package for scripting, which are
some stand alone programs.
I'm curious how easy they are to compile under EMX etc.,
(probably very) and these should work with Rexx also.

Regards,
Dallas E. Legan II / leganii@surfree.com / dallasii@kincyb.com

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