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Date:	Wed, 8 Aug 2001 02:15:28 PDT
From:	<leganii@surfree.com >
Reply-To:	scoug-programming@scoug.com
To:	scoug-programming@scoug.com
Subject:	SCOUG-Programming: Boot drive ? / Homework results

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On Tue, 07 August 2001, "Steven Levine" wrote:

> Subject: SCOUG-Programming:
> Boot drive ? / Homework results
> Sender: scoug-programming-owner
> To: scoug-programming@scoug.com
> From: "Steven Levine"
> Reply-To: scoug-programming@scoug.com
> Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 16:04:23 PDT
>
> In <3B6FC79A.67099B13@attglobal.net>, on 08/07/01
> at 06:49 AM, Harry Chris Motin said:
>
> >Could you explain this a little more. In the example you showed, where is
> >the os2bbs user id and where is the password?
>
> Me thinks Peter is still confused. He insists on talking about ftp and we
> want to talk about telnet. I think I'm going to have to feed him in the
> next day or so.

Let me back up Steven some on this.
>>>You can transfer files over Telnet/Telnet-like connections.<<<
It's not as widly done as for FTP, which was intended solely for
this purpose, but you will be able to if you have a client that
can do it, after the connection to the BBS.
Don't be afraid that this connection to the BBS will not allow
file transfers.
As a last ditch alternative if your Hyperterm won't allow
telnet, or you don't have the VMODEM.EXE tool, or whatever
(and I'm certain Mr. Levine knew this was coming :-) ),
you can get C-kermit/2 (16 or 32 bit versions) from ftp.columbia.edu
(or telnet://kermit.columbia.edu:1649 (they practice what
they preach), but that would be a chicken
and egg situation in this case!)
to make the connections and download files.
This is not as current or as efficient at transferring files as the
proprietary Kermit/2 (also available from columbia.edu),
but it is an alternative if you run out of others.

As Steven pointed out in another piece of mail in this thread,
TCP/IP has some overhead that comes with it's many advantages.
If you could dial into the BBS direct at no charge,
you could download the files faster with than over a
PPP or SLIP connection, because the file transfer protocol
provides some error correction etc. that is needlessly
duplicated by TCP if you are in local call range.
If you're on some kind of broadband of course, direct dial
over plain phone lines offers no advantage.

>
> To telnet into the os2bbs using the command line telnet:
>
> - open a command line session
> - type telnet bbs.os2bbs.com and press enter
> - wait for telnet to connect
> - you will be prompted for a user name
> - type in your name followed by enter
> - if your are already a member you will be prompted for a password
> otherwise you can go through the usual bbs signup process
>
> There lots of other ways to do the same thing. From your browser, type
>
> telnet://bbs.os2bbs.com
>
> in the location line. This is a bit hokey because all it does is invoke
> telnetpm. :-)

I played around a little bit with the telnet.exe that came with
Warp 3.0 and could find no way to get it to use an external
file transfer protocol. There may be one but I couldn't find it,
so it looks like you really have to use Hyperterm, ZOC, vmodem etc.

>
> Steven
>
>
> --
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> "Steven Levine" MR2/ICE 2.28a #10183 Warp4/FP11.5
> www.scoug.com irc.webbnet.org #scoug (Wed 7pm PST)
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>

Regards,
Dallas E. Legan II / leganii@surfree.com / dallasii@kincyb.com

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