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Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 11:56:32 PDT7
From: "Lynn H. Maxson" <lmaxson@pacbell.net >
Reply-To: scoug-programming@scoug.com
To: "SCOUG Programming SIG" <scoug-programming@scoug.com > , "Warpstock" <Warpstock-public@yahoogroups.com >, "osFree@yahoogroups.com" <osFree@yahoogroups.com >
Subject: SCOUG-Programming: Re: [osFree] Alot of Acitivity and Alot of Discussion. :)

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Ben Ravago writes:
"Certainly, that would help. Having had brushes with many of
the languages you've been mentioning, I'm curious to see what
this amalgam you have in mind will look like. How would one
describe an OS/2 thread switch in that language, for example?
..."

I've decided broaden the audience for my response here
because I really get tired of repeating myself, if for no other
reason than I've heard it before.

Every programming language is a specification language. Not
every specification language is a programming language. The
Z-specification language, for example, is not a programming
language, though I probably have more reference textbooks
on it than any other with Forth running a close second.

No matter how you hack it beginning with the gathering of
user requirements as input you have a process of five
stages--specification, analysis, design, construction, and
testing--for their translation into a executable software
version. Imperative (first-, second-, and third-generation)
languages "insist" that you perform these manually as a
sequence of translations from one stage to the next. They
"insist" because you can only say "what" you want done
through describing "how" to do it.

That's their "nature" and how they move through their
"natural habitat": one "manual" stage at a time. If you use
them, then you too must go lockstep with them. After you
have done it a few hundred million times, it becomes "natural"
to you, a habit, a paradigm, the way you see things.

Now come fourth generation "declarative" languages based on
logic programming something needs to change, even
God-forbid a 50-year-old paradigm that has transported you
through three generations to this point. You can't simply
desert it now. You don't. You insist on making fourth
generation use earlier generation tools, the same mind set
regardless.

Yet fourth generation takes specifications as input,
automatically performing analysis, design, and construction.
So why do fourth generation users not simply write
specifications only without doing any of the other? Do they
simply have bad habits they cannot drop? Or does their tool
set based on earlier generation methodology "insist" on it?

It's the tool set. It's the tool set. It's the tool set. What I tell
you three times is true. The tool set not only ill-serves its
intended earlier generations, but it's an absolute disaster
when it comes to the fourth generation.

The tool set ill serves deliberately. The vendors had a peek
at an alternate universe with IBM's (failed) AD/Cycle project
and said, "Thanks, but no thank you." Of course, they said it
in a way which implied IBM was at fault. That should have
been enough of a clue to lay to rest any residual myth about
IBM's great "marketing advantage".

Unfortunately open source, whose only tool vendor is itself,
has seen fit to have its tool set ill serve it. You may see some
reason to tie in the gcc family to what goes on here, but
frankly I don't want to get dragged down into that dungeon.
For my money the gcc family as currently implemented is the
problem and not the solution.

I brought up COBOL to illustrate a point on "reuse" made
possible by COBOL paragraphs. Granted COBOL is verbose (as
an understatement). Thus the trees may block out a view of
the forest. You may have so many paragraphs so widely
separated in a source listing that reuse may seem more a
handicap than a blessing.

The COBOL "perform" verb executes a named paragraph (all
paragraphs have names). That paragraph may consist of a
single COBOL statement on up to a larger assembly. The
COBOL "perform thru" executes a named sequence of two or
more paragraphs with the first and last names acting as
delimiters.

So COBOL provides simply what PL/I and C do not: repetitive
reuse of non-procedures, i.e. anything from a single statement
on up. In theory PL/I and C can achieve the same with an
"include", but only at the cost of actually repeating the
statements. Also note that data, not statements, are the
principal use of "includes" in most programming languages.

So COBOL provides reuse at a granularity not easily possible in
other programming languages. It implements that reuse
through an internal "label goto and return" by the compiler
whose external use by a programmer nowadays qualifies him
for job termination.

COBOL at least recognizes that the smallest unit of reuse is a
single statement (even if it occupies an entire paragraph).
Granularity of reuse to the statement level means reuse from
that level on up.

Now in logic programming rules appear as a sequence of one
or more statements. In logic programming rules are reusable.
Thus in logic programming reuse occurs down to the
statement, i.e. specification, level. My only point in
referencing COBOL was to show it was not a new concept,
something dreamed up for logic programming or by me.

You see it trips off our lips to talk of "gathering" user
requirements. That implies a "holding" action until some
number of them meeting some unspoken criteria is reached.
That implies a delay. If that delay is longer than the average
arrival rate of a new or changed requirement, then you can't
possibly keep up going manually through four stages to get
through construction. More often than not you have to initiate
a "freeze" on one gathering to get it through the process,
which means starting another for those requirements arriving
in the meantime.

You see we need to shift from a "gathering" mentality to a
"capturing" one. We don't collect them in a holding area.
Instead we pass one off as one or more specifications before
on average the next one comes in. In that manner we never
have a "backlog" nor the need to initiate a "freeze".

We bring them in one specification at a time in the order in
which they appear on input. We don't have to determine
ahead of time whether we have captured enough for
meaningful results. We let the software as part of its
completeness proof do that for us. Thus we have only to
write specifications as they occur, allowing the software to
engage continuously in analysis, design, and construction
according to the dynamics of the input.

That's what declarative buys you over imperative. You only
write specifications (here your specification language is a
programming language), leaving it up to the software to write
everything else. You know it can do it, because that's what
logic programming has always done. It's not some weird
invention of my own.

"Sorry if I seem a little contentious here but my last
assignment involved the implementation of a rule-engine
based system. Conceptually, a very promising technology but
not for the faint of heart or hard of head. ..."

We live in a world in which apparently we neither hear nor
listen to ourselves. In programming we have two things: data
(referents) and expressions regarding their use (references).
In documentation we have two things: data (referents) and
expressions regarding their use (references). So when Donald
Knuth proposes something like "literate programming" we
shouldn't be surprised that it deals with data (referents) and
associations among two different expressions with the same
purpose of their use.

If you want to go "high class", joining those who feel better
saying "information processing" instead of "data processing,
you can upgrade "data" to "object". In doing so you must
somehow admit that all data-oriented activities are also
object-oriented. That means we were doing object-oriented
technology long before we formalized and restricted its
application to a particular methodology. All programming from
its very inception to now and onward into the future is
object-oriented. It's not that we have a choice. It's simply a
matter of picking a particular choice.

In the instance of what we now refer to as object-oriented
technology we made a poor choice on selecting Smalltalk as
our paradigm. You have to be careful when you borrow
freely from academic and research environments. You ought
to have extra caution when these people seize on the
opportunity to benefit from a "for-profit" adventure. They
can't lose. You can.

No better example of this exists than UML, the "Unified"
Modeling Language. You didn't need one as much unified as
universal. You see a universal modeling language is unified,
but a unified one is not necessarily universal. You should
have been suspicious about the increased labor content when
your analysis and design stages went from two sources
(dataflows and structure charts) to fourteen.

It not only takes longer, regardless of extreme or agile
programming methods, costs more, and runs slower, but the
backlog grows faster. In other words it had just the opposite
effect on the problem it was supposed to solve.

So I can't refute my own logic by denying object-oriented. I
can, however, intelligently decide not to engage seriously in
"that" object-oriented technology.

This issues here regardless of what form of object-oriented
programming you practice are reuse, its granularity, and
whether or not repetition occurs. No one argues against the
principle of reuse. Things start to differ after that point.

Logic programming and COBOL allow granularity from the
single statement level on up. They differ on invocation. In
COBOL it occurs only through a "perform" statement. Thus
the name of the paragraph (which is the programmer's
responsibility) gets repeated, but not the paragraph, i.e. the
source. Logic programming is somewhat "richer" in options
with respect to rule processing. Nevertheless the rule itself is
never repeated, only its references.

You can understand why this happens in COBOL. You use
reuse to avoid repetition as each repeated instance would
take up valuable space. At least that's what it would do at
the time COBOL was invented. So you had two benefits. One,
space saving. Two, only a single copy of source to maintain.

Only a single copy in a single program. Otherwise a repeated
copy in each. It simplified maintenance within a single
program, but not among multiple programs affected by a
paragraph change. Except for IBM's implementation of
object-oriented COBOL I am not aware of any widespread use
of the "copy" statement in a processing section to perform the
same function as an "include" in C. Even in C (or PL/I) the
"include" statement is seldom applied to processing
statements, certainly not to a single statement regardless of
the possibility.

Why is this important? What's the big deal?

Currently editors, compilers, a whole host of supporting
utilities are based on a file system. Single statement files are
not impossible, only impractical. To use them means having to
explicitly and manually name each file. Besides that, having a
six million statement program means maintaining six million
files. Even if you break them down logically somehow into
multiple directories, it still becomes unwieldy,

Thus the file system itself mitigates against the use of single
statement files. Even in COBOL single statement paragraphs
occur physically within a body of other paragraphs, all of
which are contained in a single file. Little wonder then that
for practical purposes we use one file per procedure. Not only
do we not have granularity at the statement level, but we do
not even have it at the control structure level. In fact we do
not have it at any statement group level below the procedure
level.

All due to basing source creation and maintenance on use of a
file system. The option is to use a database. Everyone gets
hot for that because it's good to have on your resume. So
how do you use a database? Chances are exactly like a file
system except that you have a row name instead of a file
name.

The secret here lies in taking advantage of a database and
the relational language supporting access to it. You do that
by storing each statement separately, allowing the software
to automatically generate the name based on content. It
doesn't matter how many times a programmer writes the same
statement in how many different programs, the actual
statement itself only appears once in the database.

In turn statement assemblies occur only as a named list of
names of statements or assemblies. You have the "pure"
manufacturing environment that object-oriented talks about in
terms of reuse but never achieves.

All this occurs through a data repository/directory
automatically access and maintained by the software for all
documentation, all source code, and all data. All in one place,
one database with one access point, the directory. The
software provides the necessary user interface.

In the end it's not just one but a set of paradigm changes
necessary. You have the overhaul of a complete system of
paradigms.

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