said: 
>capability supposed to be a part of the language definition?  (Yes I know 
>that such design tools just create tables which are interpreted at run 
>time, but the method of implementation doesn't impact whether such a tool 
>should be defined in the HLL.) 
Actually, this may have been true at one time, but today most generate 
code that is executed at run time.  For typical examples this, see IBM's 
Visual Builder for C++ and Java.  If you study the implications of OO 
style languages, you'll find they sort of force this implementation style.  
THe GUI builder may have some sort of database description of the GUI 
layout, but this is only used at design time. 
>-- Suppose you're creating a typical match-merge program (read two sorted 
>files and create a single sequenced file).  Do you use PL/I-ish 
>statements written in a text editor, or do you instead open a boilerplate 
>match-merge template, import the file formats for the two source files, 
>click on the fields to be matched, and let the PI do the rest? 
The later is how the modern development tools work.  Components can be 
visual or non-visual.  One just drops them on the workspace, draws lines 
to hook up the interfaces and tells the tool to build code.  Components 
can be bought or built.  Of course, you will want to position visual 
components on the workspace.  Non-visual components can be place whereever 
convenient. 
Steven 
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