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Date:	Sun, 19 Jan 2003 14:54:43 PST8
From:	"Hakan" <agents@meddatainc.com >
Reply-To:	scoug-programming@scoug.com
To:	< "scoug-programming@scoug.com" > scoug-programming@scoug.com >
Subject:	SCOUG-Programming: Shall we begin?

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Dave and other members of SCOUG,

I read your post with interest since in the Philly OS/2 (now the Philly
Alternate OS Group) we have a somewhat similar situation. There are
just a few of us who have an interest in programming and utilizing OS/2
beyond the more mundane such as webbrowsing, wordprocessing etc. I am
personally using VAC++ 4 to write software I find useful in my regular
job.

I wonder if there is something we, i.e., SCOUG and interested members
of the Philly OS/2, can do together? Is your group following what the
UnixOS/2 user group is doing? Is your group in contact with the
European and/or Russian OS/2 developers?

I am copying the Philly OS/2 mailing list on this message -- hopefully
we can get a discussion going.

Hakan

On Sun, 19 Jan 2003 13:20:30 PST8, Dave Watson wrote:

>On 18 Jan 2003 at 19:50, Lynn H. Maxson wrote:
>> I, for one, enjoyed Greg Smith's presentation today.
>
>Great job, Greg -- thanks!
>
>> ... there ought to be a way you can
>> contribute money to pay to have source contributed.
>
>I don't expect much of that. There will always be folks on the dole. I'm
>not sure having open source freeloaders contribute money would
>improve the software any more than making welfare bums take a
>useless job would improve society. Finding _useful_ work for the
>bums might improve the individuals in both cases. Software
>development involves non-programming skills as well as coders, and
>maybe we could get non-coders (or poor coders, like me) something
>useful to do. Which is why I hope we can continue to perform
>presentations like the last two at the general meeting, and not
>segregate ourselves into a back room of coders.
>
>> ... Even if you don't feel like programming, you neither want to
>> write or rewrite a line of code, you should at least have a
>> reading knowledge. You should be able to read and
>> understand (mentally visualize) what the code does.
>
>It's kind of like cooking. You can survive at the Golden Truffle or the
>golden arches, but it's useful to have at least rudimentary skills in the
>kitchen. Sometimes you don't need a 5-course dinner, or McDonalds
>is closed, or won't do it your way. It's useful to know how to read a
>cookbook or fix a sandwich and to have some of the fixins.
>
>I think the important question now is "_what_ do we begin?" I'm not
>confident we'll ever get more than a few members of this group to do
>anything more useful than assemble for donuts. But we should try to
>produce a small project to see if there's enough potential to pursue
>this. Any suggestions?
>
>
>
>
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