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Date:	Tue, 13 Apr 2004 21:31:52 PDT7
From:	"Bob" <tt336a5u02@sneakemail.com >
Reply-To:	scoug-programming@scoug.com
To:	scoug-programming@scoug.com
Subject:	SCOUG-Programming: majordomo

** Reply to message from "Steven Levine steve53@earthlink.net" on Tue, 13 Apr
2004 20:19:41 PDT7

> >I have been looking at email servers and other mailing list programs to
> >see what we should use on the SCOUG site.
>
> OK.
>
> >The test that comes with the perl install says it seems to be installed
> >correctly but will not continue because it could not find a unix type
> >shell such as SH.

The "testperl.cmd" file is a batch file with what appear to be perl scripts
towards the bottom of the file.

> Sheesh. How do you define not continue? My mind reading skills are not
> that good. Do you get an error message or does if just return to the
> command line?

error message "I could not find your shell."

> I run the following settings:
>
> set PERL_BADLANG=0
> set PERLLIB_PREFIX=f:/perllib/lib;d:/perllib/lib
> set PERL_SH_DIR=d:/emx/bin
> SET .pl=D:\EMX\BIN\PERL
>
> This points perl to emx's sh.exe, if it wants it. Didn't the installer
> set this up for you?
>
> FWIW, I'm running a oldish version because I've been busy with other
> things:
>
> [j:\tmp]perl -V
> Summary of my perl5 (5.0 patchlevel 5 subversion 53) configuration:

"This is perl, v5.8.0 built for OS2_EMX"

> >Do I need SH or some other unix type shell?
>
> Reading between the lines of your statements, it would appear so as would
> reading the README:
>
>
> To start external programs with complicated command lines (like with pipes
> in between, and/or quoting of arguments), Perl uses an external shell.
> With EMX port such shell should be named , and located either in
> the wired-in-during-compile locations (usually F), or in
> configurable location (see L<"PERL_SH_DIR">).
>
> >The full error message "process terminated by SIGPIPE".
>
> Using what command and what options?

I don't remember but I do know there were no "|" symbols in the command so I
was surprised by the message.

>
> >From what Peter has said something needs to be done soon because of the
> >time needed to run the SCOUG site.
>
> IMNSHO, Peter may have made this a larger project than it needs to be.
> However, I can't say for sure because he has not really revealed much of
> the details. I do know he has spent a lot of time getting synchronizing
> the clock, but then I know time synchronization is important to him on any
> system.

He may have been doing something with the system time but from messages I have
seen he says that it takes a lot of work to keep the mail server going. I do
not know what specific problems he is having.

> >Testing email servers and mailing list programs have so far shown that
> >there are two of the three email servers I would recommend and there is
> >one of the five mailing list programs I would recommend. I would like to
> >see if Majordomo can do what we need as another option.
>
> MajorDomo is very capable. The downside is if you build it, you get to
> maintain it.

This is true of any program and part of the reason I wanted to try it out. We
need a mail server and mailing list program that do not require a lot of time,
not something that is a blackhole when it comes to the time required to keep it
running.

> BTW, what sort of feed back have you gotten on the issues you raised for
> Weasel and MajorMajor?

For Weasel Peter responded that the "receive header" problem would be fixed the
next release. I did not ask when that would be. I have not received any
response to my messages about majormajor.

--
Robert Blair

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