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Date:	Fri, 26 Aug 2005 20:08:42 PDT7
From:	"Lynn H. Maxson" <lmaxson@pacbell.net >
Reply-To:	scoug-programming@scoug.com
To:	"SCOUG Programming SIG" <scoug-programming@scoug.com >
Subject:	SCOUG-Programming: Complicate versus complex

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I hope those of you present had an appreciation for the
presentations by Greg Smith and Steven Levine, both of which
involved the GCC C/C++ development environment. I found
the development environment for SeaMonkey (Mozilla Suite)
with its list of "recommended downloads of particular interest.
While we had a representation of the skill set of two of our
members we also had an illustration of what holds most of the
open source community back from greater participation.

I fall back on two concepts, complicated and complexity.
Complicated refers to the amount of components required,
while complexity refers to the amount of connections among
them. Not surprisingly we seek to reduce both wherever
possible. That concept runs contrary to the "unix mentality",
which likes to load up an environment with numerous pieces
connected by the user. Thus you have user instead of system
integration.

I have yet to download the latest OS/2 version of the GCC
compiler, but I did download the latest version of the Watcom
C/C++ product, version 1.4. I remain impressed by it as a
package more so than I am by GCC. I would suggest that we
do a comparison.

Once Greg has completed to his satisfaction his presentation I
would like to offer the same conversion of a Linux application
using the Watcom product using its IDE. Maybe in so doing I
can better illustrate differences of complicated and complex
from a user's perspective.

As we consider a worthwhile project to undertake I suggest
that we look at contributing to both GCC and Watcom
development.

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