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Date:	Fri, 2 Oct 1998 11:30:38 PDT
From:	<musicmanheg@yahoo.com >
Reply-To:	scoug-general@scoug.com
To:	scoug-general@scoug.com
Subject:	SCOUG-General: HPFS Problems? Help!

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Hi, Peter!

Thanks so much for responding. I'll address some of your issues
inline, but first I want to say that I tried to use GTU to check the
surface, the program locks up the system (at a certain point) and I
got a TRAP (this was after I left it running for several hours).

---Peter Skye wrote:
>
> The MMaN (Lance) wrote:
> >
> > I've been having hard disk problems, and now I've gotten to the
state
> > where my boot partition (E:) gives me a disk error when trying to
boot.
>
> You mean a CHKDSK error, yes? Your boot starts, CHKDSK runs, and you
> get the error?

No.

>
> If that's not it, what disk error do you get?

I believe it was "System disk failure", after the upper left hand
corner OS/2 white square.

How big is your drive?

Don't remember!

> Have you resized any partitions (with Partition Magic or similar)?

No.

>
> You say you've "been having hard disk problems". What kind of
problems
> preceded this bootup disk error?
>
WINAPPCTL in CONFIG.SYS, another error relating to SIO. At first, I
was able to continue after restoring files. Also, I would need to
turn the system completely off before I could reboot, CAD wouldn't do
it.

> And does your system stop dead or is the error just reported and the
> boot continues?

When the config.sys errors were reported, I would have to reboot.

>
> > I think what has happened is that I've been trying to restore files
> > from the backup using a maintenance partition which has the older
> > version (pre FP-7, which E: is) of CHKDSK and, I presume, of the
HPFS
> > IFS.
>
> Is this IDE or SCSI? If IDE, are you (or were you) using the new IDE
> drivers?

I have both, but SCSI is only for JAZ. I don't remember if I
installed new IDE drivers after FP7.
Why are the new IDE drivers needed? Are they a part of LARGEDASD?

If IDE with the new IDE drivers, remember that they're not
> included in FixPak 6, 7 or 8 -- copying these driver files from an old
> backup could downlevel your IDE drivers.
>
> Are you restoring from a tape backup, or do you mean that you're
> actually using the maintenance partition files to replace your E:
> files?

Backup to disk on another drive, restoring from maintenance partion on
the affected drive.

I don't think that restoring some backup files by running the
> restore program from your maintenance partition which has a different
> FixPak level could cause a problem. None of the maintenance partition
> files are moved to your "main" partition during the restore.

OK, but what happens if I run CHKDSK on the E: partition? The new
file structure can be successfully checked by the old CHKDSK?

>
> If you can install FixPak 8 onto your E: that might get you "back in
> sync". It's worth a try. Remember again that the new IDE drivers
> aren't in FixPak 8; if you've been using them you'll have to install
> them again.

I think I need to replace the hard drive. But first I would like to
attempt to recreate E:, formatting first. Is there anything I need to
be aware of? I run format, SYSINSTX, and then restore, and that
should do the trick?

And if that doesn't, I might possibly copy the C: and D: partitions to
the new drive (temporarily installed as the second physical), swap
drives, and restore as above? Or copy everything first and see if it
will boot? Hmm. That might be the simplest. The new drive is 2.1
gig, I believe. Perhaps the old one was, too.

Looks like a chance to try out Drive/Diskcopy, assuming I can locate
them!

>
> Good luck.

Thanks. I'm sure I'll need it, and more!

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