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>Jack Huffman wrote:
>> There is a Laserjet 4 printer available here. The seller tells me it was
>> used at home only and has been in storage for two years. Under the
>> circumstances I doubt that she can run it for me.
>>
>> If the printer and the cartridge were in storage separately, will the
>> printer operate okay and will the cartridge be usable?
>Re the former, it depends; you can probably write off the cartridge after
>that length of time. The good news is that this model was a business
>standard, built like a tank (they don't hardly make 'em like this
>anymore), maybe the best HP laserjet model ever. Some others in the 4
>series (like the 4M, 4V, 4+) are much the same, while the 4L is a tiny
>printer with very scaled down features.
>I bought a plain 4 on Ebay about a year ago. It was cosmetically
>perfect, had a page count of 90K copies (not considered terribly high for
>this printer, although it is very possible for someone dishonest to
>tamper with the page count . . . . ), and the seller said it was in great
>operating condition. Had that been true, what I paid would have been a
>good deal, even with the $35. in shipping cost. I think the seller
>honestly believed what he said about the condition. Nevertheless, the
>paper assembly -- a mechanical subsystem that moves paper through the
>printer -- began making grinding noises and mutilating pages shortly
>after I hooked up the printer. Parts and labor to replace this with a
>new paper unit came to over $150. Suddenly, this purchase no longer
>looked like such a good deal to me . . . but the printer had come with
>certain extras, like maxxed out memory, all manuals, a PostScript card,
>and a JetDirect card installed, so the repair tech insisted I _still_ got
>a pretty decent buy.
>It's hard to predict whether you might run into such a problem, so figure
>these considerations into your agreeable purchase price.
>> What other potential problems could I have?
>Mechanically, that is probably the most common problem. From what I was
>told, under normal circumstances, that part -- and this printer as a
>whole, should not require service for at least 200K copies, in some cases
>closer to 300. Another thing that can go bad is rubber rollers. These
>tend to dry out and crack after 4 or 5 years, but I don't think these are
>expensive parts.
>> What questions should I ask the seller?
>Probably none she will have answers for, besides whether she is the
>original owner, and how heavy a duty cycle the printer underwent.
>> How do your answers to these questions and advice change if the printer
>> was stored with the cartridge installed?
>It's not quite the potential disaster that could arise in the case of
>inkjet cartridges, but it can make a big mess -- much more so if shipping
>is involved. I'd pull the cartridge, carefully, before transporting the
>printer. I don't know what possible damage might be done by trying to
>use a badly expired cartridge. Maybe none, if no toner comes out. If
>there is a mess, you will probably see evidence of it right away.
>Jordan
>P.S. if anyone is familiar with the JetDirect card, model J2555 (an old
>model, minimally covered on the HP website), please let me know. It says
>"Token Ring" on it. I gather that is a somewhat obsolete networking
>standard ? What are the implications for network printing, under Warp &
>Windoze, if one does not have Token Ring ?
Jordan,
Thanks for the tips.
Jack
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