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Date:	Fri, 11 Oct 2002 06:14:46 PST7
From:	Harry Chris Motin <hmotin@attglobal.net >
Reply-To:	scoug-help@scoug.com
To:	scoug-help@scoug.com
Subject:	SCOUG-Help: Injoy Firewall Pro

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Michael,

> Congratulations on taking on the wiring job. I hope my SCOUG presentation
> helped inspire you to take it on.

Yes, indeed, your presentation was the starter for me. It helped give me
the confidence that I can do it, and do it correctly. After reading up
on everything, it does not appear to be that hard, and I am going to it
in separate steps with verifications at each one. The laying of the
cable is probably the most distasteful. I am going to try to get a jump
on it all day today!

> Basement! You lucky dog. I've missed my basement since I moved west from the East Coast.

Well, it's only full height for half of the basement. The other half is
a crawl space, maybe 2 ft high. Therefore, I will be on my back on
crawling over dirt for some part of the install. But, it's do-able. I'll
upgraded electrical wiring down there before.

I wonder why (most) houses out here don't have basements???? Would be a
lot easier for house maintenance (upgrading/fixing wiring and plumbing,
etc.)

> The gateway machine to the Internet doesn't need to be dedicated to that
> process. The firewall function doesn't put much of a burden on the machine > you can still use it as a client machine. Although mine is only dialup, it's
> both the gateway and my main machine.

>..., I assume by this you mean that you don't want to have to turn one
> machine one to allow the other two to access the Internet, right? If that's
> true, then I agree. Otherwise, you may not need a hardware firewall at all.

Ultimately, I am not using my client OS/2 machine (the only OS/2 machine
I've got) as a gateway, because it's a matter of security and
convenience:

1. It would be a 2 step process (instead of a 1 step one) for the other
computers to get Internet access each time

2. I really do not want my machine ON and open to the Internet unless
I'm there doing it (even though I'll get a hardware firewall with the
DSL modem and even though I'll get Injoy Firewall Pro on my machine)

3. In a similar mode, I'll control any file sharing from the other
machines to mine, etc., independent of whether or not anyone is
accessing the Internet

Rocky, thanks for your SCOUG presentation and all your help!
HCM
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Michael Rakijas wrote:
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> ** Reply to message from Harry Chris Motin on Wed, 9 Oct
> 2002 17:26:58 PST7
>
> Hey Harry,
>
> Congratulations on taking on the wiring job. I hope my SCOUG presentation
> helped inspire you to take it on.
>
> > Peter,
> >
> > > 1. When we wired offices, we "stubbed out" ..., jacks up to the ceiling,
> > > and pulled in the cables later
> >
> > I ain't going back up into the attic for this install. I just finished
> > putting installation up there and that was a job! Hot, dusty, no
> > lighting, low ceiling/roof...,
>
> Been there. Been hot. Been dusty.
>
> > I got a lot more room downstairs in the basement
>
> Basement! You lucky dog. I've missed my basement since I moved west from the
> East Coast.
>
> > to run things between
> > the various rooms and the switch. I'm going to leave a lot of slack in
> > the cables on both ends to take care of problems, like connector wiring
> > mistakes, no continuity between pins on opposite ends of the cable, etc.
> >
> > > 5. Umm, where exactly were you planning on putting Injoy Firewall Pro
> > (IFP)?
> >
> > I'll put IFP on my OS/2 computer as part of the Internet upgrade. The
> > other 2 computers are not mine and they use that other OS. That's why I
> > need the hardware firewall. If it was not for them, I could use IFP as
> > my software firewall and that's all I would need. I understand that the
> > software firewall of IFP is a lot more flexible and capable than
> > hardware firewalls. Also, I am not going to have a dedicated PC as a
> > gateway to the Internet.
>
> The gateway machine to the Internet doesn't need to be dedicated to that
> process. The firewall function doesn't put much of a burden on the machine -
> you can still use it as a client machine. Although mine is only dialup, it's
> both the gateway and my main machine.
>
> > All 3 computers will be equal on the LAN.
>
> I assume by this you mean that you don't want to have to turn one machine one
> to allow the other two to access the Internet, right? If that's true, then I
> agree. Otherwise, you may not need a hardware firewall at all.
>
> -Rocky
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