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Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 13:48:08 PST7
From: "Steven Levine" <steve53@earthlink.net >
Reply-To: scoug-help@scoug.com
To: scoug-help@scoug.com
Subject: SCOUG-Help: Re: Chat access | Google Groups

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In <3DA35275.93BC35CD@pacbell.net>, on 10/08/02
at 12:48 PM, "J. R. Fox" said:

>Yahoo Groups, which took over the old EGroups. There are about 70 of
>those (for OS/2), most of which are members only. I used to visit some
>of them, back when it was still EGroups, but it's been a long time and I
>never got around to checking out their revamped facility. Now I see that

Oh well, that's what happens when you make assumptions. Most of these
groups are very useful for topical help. Memebership is often required to
post, but rarely required to read. The membership requirement is there to
prevent spam. It is not an attitude issue.

>Google Groups appears to be what took over the old Deja News. The
>searching interface that Google implemented strikes me as a vast
>improvement over the way it was under Deja. For anyone lacking the time

Now you finally understand why you will often see the statement "Google is
your friend" from me an others. It's a vast treasure trove of knowledge.
If one takes the time to actually read the Google query page, one finds
switching between web searches and newsgroup searches is a single click.

I use the advanced search modes almost exclusively. Since I'm often
looking for information on specific topic even though the keywords may be
somewhat general, this seems to work better for me.

>might expect, a lot of it is either WIN-oriented or only tangentially
>relevant. Many messages reach back to 1999, and refer to 3-level or
>4-level firmware, whereas I've been on 5x f/w for quite some time. It is

The advanced search allows you to limit the date ranges.

>applied to innumerable threads on a myriad of subjects), **directly
>contradicting each other.** And sometimes not very nicely, either. Ah,
>but I guess that's the newsgroups for you.

Hey, I even contratrdict myself now and then. It's part of the human
condition.

>What have I learned so far ? Sonicwall is said not to support ICQ (not
>much the same thing as IRC, I hope), CUseeMe, NetMeeting, and a few other

Functionally similar. Technically, they are both internet protocols that
use TCP/IP.

>things. SonicSys is said to not be very helpful on the info and support
>end, which isn't all that divergent from my own experience with them. I
>haven't been to their website in a good while, though, and that is
>probably my next stop.

From the above I gather you still don't know the identd port. A Goggle
search for:

irc identd port

reminds me that it is port 113.

Steven

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