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Date:	Sat, 28 Sep 2002 03:54:52 PST7
From:	"Info2SYNass.NET" <Info@SYNass.NET >
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Subject:	SCOUG-Help: uninstall of RSJ

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Hi everbody
I feel that there is a misunderstanding in the discussion with
Butch's
efforts to save his envrionment back to normal !?

If Butch has not done any manual WPS archiving he will have no
chance to restore from this point ;-(

My file altf1mid.scr in x:\OS2\BOOT shows these entries

1) Archive created 19.09.2002 09.19.20
2) Archive created 03.09.2002 09.03.28
3) Archive created 31.08.2002 08.31.20
0) Original archive from INSTALL created 19.09.2002 09.00.12

#0 normally is the archive created with the system installation !
#1 to 3 are the 3 generations of archives created manually thru
the user's activation in the WPS ...
... so I assume Butch only has #0 in his Recovery Choice Menu !

As you see above:
I do a very frequent archiving "after" important system
manipulation
and also "before" of some possibly risky manipulations ;-)
Sometimes I did not and then sometimes I faced Murphy's Law ;-((

My opinion is and I would suggest this to Butch too:

First of all: ASK and DISCUSS and CONSIDER/RECONSIDER
before taking any actions to be warned before an emergency
appears.

Second: Get familiar with OS/2 important features ...

Third: Get a god strategy to setup the environment, i.e.
partitioning
and system resp. data locations.

Fourth: Identify personally needed "MustHave-Tools" and learn
to work well with them.

Finally after few experimental months he may think of a really
proper re-installation of his OS in that way he needs and wants
;-))

My hint:
C: is the system only
D: is the data only
E: is executables only
and the rest is up to each her- or himself

In any case of emergency: D: and E: are not touched !!

My philosophy:
Everthing on my system can be restored again ...
... my DATA, the ones in D: are gone definitely if I do not
backup !

Better one backup more than some data gone !!!

I will stop here before you get tired of my weak English ;-)
I appreciate your phatastic assistance, discussion of opinions
;-))
Thanks a lot to you, svobi

steve53@earthlink.net on 27.09.2002 06.31.44
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Subject: SCOUG-Help: uninstall of RSJ

In <3D93DDB5.2CECA56A@attglobal.net>, on 09/26/02
at 08:30 PM, Harry Chris Motin said:

>This is part of what Butch said:

I read all of that and I remember what I had him write down
during the IRC
chat and I have the IRC hardcopy logs. :-)

>OK! I am doing some interpreting here, so I may be off base.
Based on
>what Butch wrote, the first time he hit ALT-F1 he got a list and
he
>selected the commandline choice. Therefore, he got a bunch of C:
prompts.
>That is especially true, if he also used DIR

IIRC, this is a known problem with some Warp4 kernels when booted
to the
command line. If he had asked me before proceeding, most likely,
I would
have had him install the 10/26/00 kernel after figuring out what
he was
running.

>On the second ALT-F1, Butch stated that he selected the initial
>CONFIG.SYS choice. Nowhere did he say that he selected to go to
the
>Maintenance Desktop choice!

That's true. He never said he did that. He said he selected the
option to
restore the original desktop (i.e. option 0 on the menu).

>However, EVEN IF he did (unfortunately) go to the Maintenance
Desktop, he
>may still be able to recover his desktop and settings. According
to my

His life might be much simplier if he had Selected the Maintenance
Desktop. This is assuming that Current did get popuplated.

>OS/2 book, when you choose the Maintenance Desktop, the system
saves the
>current information, the current files, in
C:\OS2\ARCHIVES\CURRENT\

My book says that too. Butch says it didn't happen for him. I
can
believe that. The built-in desktop restore is not reliable, IMO.
It's
also possible he's not looking in the right place. He's not
describing
his actions all that clearly and he makes up word for things as
he goes so
I'm never exactly sure what he has done. :-)

>If I found them, I would use the latest ones, rename them back
to their
>correct names and use them. It's worth a shot, I think.

I'm going to have to find some time to experiment with the
built-in
Desktop restore. It will be interesting to see if Current gets
populated.
With Unimaint it's easy enough to have a guaranteed recovery
fallback.

Steven

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