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Date:	Sat, 15 Mar 2003 13:04:08 PST8
From:	Harry Chris Motin <hmotin@attglobal.net >
Reply-To:	scoug-help@scoug.com
To:	scoug-help@scoug.com
Subject:	SCOUG-Help: OS/2 Mail Clients

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Peter,

I get the following when I use telnet:

telnet -p 110 pop.sbcglobal.yahoo.com
+OK hello from popgate(2.23.13)

telnet -p 25 smtp.sbcglobal.yahoo.com
220 smtp808.mail.sc5.yahoo.com ESMTP

Peter Skye wrote:
> Finally, if your mail connection doesn't work from Netscape,
> it ain't gonna work from any other mail client either.
> Better fix Netscape first, *then* pick a new email program.

I'm not sure what the problem is with Netscape. I'm thinking that it
might be that its an older browser application and it does not have all
that it needs to connect to sbc DSL correctly/fully. I say that because:

1. I can connect properly to the DSL, including E-Mail, on the Windows
machines. The machines all share the DSL connection through a LAN.

2. When I go to the sbc website, it looks different in Netscape (NS)
versus Internet Explorer (IE). In IE I can see/use a button called "My
Mail". It takes me right to the mail. In NS that button is nowhere to be
found!

I can put up with the website differences and the lack of a mail button
in NS. But I need to get to my mail from this OS/2 machine. So, I'm
thinking that the problem is really in NS and not in my router, or any
other connection hardware/software.

HCM
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Peter Skye wrote:
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> Harry Chris Motin wrote:
> >
> > . . . OS/2 mail client application.
>
> The three major ones are MR/2 ICE, PMMail and Polarbar
> (which is Java-based). All three are highly thought of.
>
> I've been asking about mail clients for years and there's
> no consensus (some people still rely on no-longer-supported
> mail clients such as Post Road Mailer or, in my own case,
> Netscape 2.02).
>
> MR/2 and PMMail cost a few bucks but you can try them for
> free (maybe 30 days, I'm not sure). Polarbar is free. All
> three have their own mail lists for support.
>
> None of them have message threading like Netscape does, but
> if you don't use threading then it's not an issue. All
> three have much more robust filtering than Netscape 2.02
> does; I don't know about the filtering in newer versions of
> Netscape.
>
> The messages are stored differently by different programs,
> most notably Netscape which stores all of the messages in a
> folder in a single file. There are conversion utilities
> which can move the messages from one mail program to another
> (but I don't know if these conversion utilities also move
> the message flags such as "Not read yet" and "Important").
>
> I *think* that you can link any of these mail clients with
> your browser so you can click on an email link in a web page
> and bring up the email program, and you can click on a web
> link in an email message and open the window in your browser.
> But I've never researched this so I'm not sure.
>
> > Right now I can receive E-Mail from [a new DSL] address
> > on the Windows machines, but not the OS/2 one
>
> This should be simple to fix -- a lot simpler than getting
> a new email program.
>
> See if you can telnet from your OS/2 machine to your ISP's
> mail server on both the incoming (POP3) port 110 and the
> outgoing (SMTP) port 25. For example, from my machine the
> following work:
>
> telnet -p 25 outgoing.verizon.net
> telnet -p 110 incoming.verizon.net
>
> ("quit" will get you back to a command line.)
>
> I don't know what mail server addresses you're using. Here
> is NSLOOKUP on attglobal.net:
>
> [G:\]nslookup
> Default Server: vnsc-pri.sys.gtei.net
> Address: 4.2.2.1
>
> [G:\]nslookup
> > set type=mx
> > attglobal.net
> Server: vnsc-pri.sys.gtei.net
> Address: 4.2.2.1
> Non-authoritative answer:
> attglobal.net preference = 10, mail exchanger = mx2.prserv.net
> attglobal.net preference = 10, mail exchanger = mx1.prserv.net
> Authoritative answers can be found from:
> attglobal.net nameserver = ns1.us.prserv.net
> attglobal.net nameserver = ns3.us.prserv.net
> attglobal.net nameserver = ns4.us.prserv.net
> mx1.prserv.net internet address = 32.97.166.40
> mx2.prserv.net internet address = 32.97.166.40
> > exit
> [G:\]
>
> Notes:
> -- mx1.- and mx2.prserv.net appear to be your server names
> for port 25.
> -- If a name doesn't work, try the actual dotted decimal
> address.
> -- If one or both of the telnet attempts don't work, you
> might be blocked at your router.
>
> Finally, if your mail connection doesn't work from Netscape,
> it ain't gonna work from any other mail client either.
> Better fix Netscape first, *then* pick a new email program.
>
> - Peter
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