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Date:	Mon, 22 Nov 2004 09:18:16 PST8
From:	"Steven Levine" <steve53@earthlink.net >
Reply-To:	scoug-help@scoug.com
To:	scoug-help@scoug.com
Subject:	SCOUG-Help: stuck in exit list ?

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In <41A20CE2.1423@peterskye.com>, on 11/22/04
at 07:59 AM, Peter Skye said:

>For the past three or four days, many of my Startup folder programs run
>and terminate (as they should) but still appear on my Ctrl-Esc Window
>List.

I've seen this happen with some apps. As you have notices, it will happen
if an app gets stuck in the exit list, but it can happen for other
reasons, even for apps that exit cleanly.

I suspect the other reasons is a WPS timing error. Take a look a the
switch list API functions in the PM Programmers Guide, specifically
WinRemoveSwitchListEntry(). Best I can tell, the functions only work for
processes that are running. If the process exits before the WPS has a
chance to update the switch list, the switch list entry hangs around until
the next reboot. Since the switch list is part of PM, resetting the WPS
does nothing to clean it up.

>They don't show up on my switch list, they aren't highlighted in
>my Startup folder, and they aren't shown in "pstat /c". If I select one
>from the Ctrl-Esc Window List and try to switch to it, my desktop hangs
>(the clock stops and a Ctrl-Alt-Del does a proper shutdown and reboot).

This is somewhat odd. It does imply that they are stuck in the exit list.
I don't think pstat will show these, but I'm not sure, since I rarely use
pstat. There are better tools. I'm not even sure if Theseus will show
them. I'll try to remember to check next time Approach hangs. Process
Commander does show these stuck processes.

>UniMaint, CheckINI and CleanIni have all been run. No effect.

Makes sense. The INI files have nothing to do with running processes.

>Are these programs "stuck in the exit list"? What might be the cause?
>Any ideas for fixing this?

Has your app mix changed?

BTW, do your startup folder icons normally stay hatched? Depending on
what the objects do, they may or may not stay active. For example if the
associated script starts a daemon and exits, the icon will not stay
hatched, but the object is no longer active.

Steven

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