said: 
>  
>  
>>For the purposes of this discussion I will say that Flash works if the  
>>Flash box, at the referenced Macromedia site, has content, the three  
>>tabs open, and the about tab identifies your browser as having Flash 7.  
>  
> It does all that and the sample sites that I've test all work.  The 
> Macromedia site does offer to let me download the plugin, but that's just 
> because I'm running an old version. 
To my knowledge the only thing we have available is 5 and 7 and 5 is  
about useless, so I specified 7.  This is just an attempt to get us on  
the same page, and know that Flash is loaded. 
>  
>>Open the top and bottom panes of a mail window. 
>  
> I don't do Mozilla mail, so news will have to do. 
News is OK, but it has to be SeaMonkey. 
>  
>>Scroll between two adjacent, simple, text only, messages in the top pane  
>>while watching the new message appear in the bottom pane. 
>>How long does it take to change from one message to the next? 
>  
> Under a second for a news post.  This obviously includes fetch time from 
> the newsserver in the switching time.  It's the same if I close the flash 
> window.   
By Flash window I assume you mean a browser window that has Flash content. 
  > 
>>What CPU are you running? 
>  
> It's mid-range.  3GHz P4 with 512MB PC2700 RAM. 
By 3G what I am seeing might not be obvious.  By just adding or removing  
the Flash files from the plugins directory - and restarting SM - I add  
or remove a delay in the time it takes for the next message to appear in  
the lower pane. 
When I started this iteration of trying to isolate the source of the  
email scroll delay I started with everything new.  New Hardware, new OS,  
new profile, new mail files.  There were to be no questions about  
leftover profiles, uncompressed, huge, attachment loaded mail files...... 
I built SM 1.0 until it broke.  It broke when I added Flash (7.0.14 &  
7.0.61).  At that point what had been an acceptable scroll time added a  
very noticeable delay. 
After I induced the delay by adding Flash I ran 1.7.12 using the same  
profile.  I observed that 1.7.12 with Flash has a shorter scroll time  
than SM without Flash. 
I tried 4 machines.  I went to the oldest that I have connected;  
PIII-900M.  This is my "new" storage box.  It inherited the old profiles  
and plugins.  With an inbox containing just a few one word test messages  
it was taking twenty seconds to scroll from one message to the next.  I  
did nothing except pull out all plugins except the 7 JAVA files.  Scroll  
time dropped to two seconds, still long enough to peg the activity  
monitor.  This is with SM 1.0 - 20060131 and 1.0 Peter - 20060212. 
With Moz 1.7.12 there is barely a blip in the monitor.  I replaced all  
the plugins, and with JAVA 1.4.2_05 and Flash 7.0.61 functional, scroll  
causes barely a blip. 
It appears that I can, at will, by changing the plugins, alter the mail  
scroll time, from unusable to tolerable, but not good; under SM not 1.7.12. 
Maybe with a fast enough machine SM is usable with Flash.  The "new"  
machine I used is a laptop, cost about $1700 a year ago.  I don't think  
that quite makes it an old relic.  It has about a 2 sec delay with SM\Flash. 
Ray 
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