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Date:	Sat, 6 Oct 2001 18:05:25 PDT
From:	Wayne Cypress <waynecypress@compuserve.com >
Reply-To:	scoug-help@scoug.com
To:	SCOUG group help <scoug-help@scoug.com >
Subject:	SCOUG-Help: Netscape performance

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I connected an old computer to the LinkSys router today; it has an older
4.61 version of Netscape, and, of course, different hard drives, etc, etc=
. =

Speed was still slow, in the 25 to 55 kbps range, which is dial-up speed.=

I also checked ping responses to various sites, which seem slow to me but=
I
don't have any point of reference. Perhaps someone with DSL base service
could tell me what sort of response they're getting. Here are some typica=
l
response times I'm seeing:

to my ISP gateway: 130 to 250 ms
to Yahoo.com: 80 to 250 ms

Most responses to those and other sites are in the mid-100's to low 200's=

=

I spoke to tech support at my ISP today, According to the tech rep, there=

has been a problem with customers in my town due to wiring circuits going=

through a particular trunk line that has been causing problems. I told t=
he
rep that I couldn't justify paying $50/month for service I could be getti=
ng
for free by dialing in, and that it was in their interest to get the phon=
e
company busy fixing the problem, else I need to switch to cable, which
means I'd be forced to drop them as my ISP. =

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Prior note read as follows
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Wow, just had a shocker... in addition to the info I listed in my prior
note (see below), I just found a website that is supposed to check intern=
et
speed: Http://www.speedus.com

Using Netscape under Warp 4, my speed was "clocked" as from 41 to 51 kbps=

in 4 runs.

Using Netscape under Windows 95, my speed was "clocked" from 95 to 104
kbps.

Neither of those clockings were anywhere near what DSL should be, but, wo=
w,
under Warp I'd be better off using a dial-up connection, for crying out
loud!!! =

Anybody out here got any ideas on what could be causing this lousy
performance????

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my prior note read as follows
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>

I have made a number of changes on my home system over the past 10 months=
,
and lately have been noticing what seems to be a bad performance issue wi=
th
Netscape.

Here are 3 manifestations of the problem: =

1. One obvious symptom is that Netscape takes 90+ seconds at 100% process=
or
utilization to come down after clicking "exit" or the exit symbol
(effectively locking out all use of the system during that time). I do no=
t
recall that Netscape always did this in the past, only became aware of it=

recently, but I cannot connect it with a system change.

2. I also see problems with some selected websites in that some pages do
not seem to ever end (don't show up on the display) but rather use 70% or=

so of the processor forever (sometimes several reloads will finally get t=
he
page to show up). =

3. It is very seldom that the Netscape "stop" button is NOT enabled betwe=
en
web pages (even though "done" appears in the bar at the bottom of Netsca=
pe
window).

4. Perhaps a side issue, not a performance issue, but sometimes get Java
error returned from some web pages I try to access.

Here is a brief summary of my system:

266mhz Pentium II with 352mb memory, both scsi (via Adaptec 2940UW PCI
card) and IDE hard drives (periodically defragged, seldom need it), PCI
ethernet card; =

DSL connection through a LinkSys BEFSR41 (4-port router)... just upgrad=
ed
to latest bios level today; =

Warp 4 at fixpack 12 with Java 11.8 (Warp partition is HPFS, other
partitions are FAT);
Netscape 4.61 encrypted edition downloaded from IBM at latest (July 10?=
)
level (I have tried moving cache location, changing its size, and erasing=

netscape.hst frequently)

I also have the ability to boot Widows95 and have not noticed these
problems when using Netscape under Win95.

Anyone have any ideas... is my experience normal or abnormal?

Wayne

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